LANEGAN & DULLI reparten clase y amor (Soulsavers:Broken)

Hoy en barna un homeless moribundo con botella whiskey y biblia en mano, ripplestronk creo recordar, me encomendo su legado y abrir este valiente topic, sin Saturnalia no se haya la salvacion!!!



The Gutter Twins - Saturnalia (2008)

1. The Stations
2. God's Children
3. All Misery/Flowers
4. The Body
5. Idle Hands
6. Circle the Fringes
7. Who Will Lead Us
8. Seven Stories Underground
9. I Was in Love with You
10. Bete Noir
11. Each to Each
12. Front Street

http://rapidshare.com/files/98684676/The_Gutter_Twins_-_Saturnalia.rar

Hello Forainerss!!!

OTIA, otro aparecido.
Se te echaba a faltar, cuantos discos más ha grabado Lanegan desde tu desaparición?
Welcome

Djalma escribió:OTIA, otro aparecido.
Se te echaba a faltar, cuantos discos más ha grabado Lanegan desde tu desaparición?
Welcome

Eso es secreto confidencial, que este topic tiene que rentar todo el año, pero os dejo el video que se han currao los ederly brothers de All misery/flowers, Dulli a la bateria , Lanegan premio a actor revelacion , cabalgatas de New Orleans, cementerios y risto mejide 8)

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=31013073

Ripplegan escribió:

Djalma escribió:OTIA, otro aparecido.
Se te echaba a faltar, cuantos discos más ha grabado Lanegan desde tu desaparición?
Welcome

Eso es secreto confidencial, que este topic tiene que rentar todo el año, pero os dejo el video que se han currao los ederly brothers de All misery/flowers, Dulli a la bateria , Lanegan premio a actor revelacion , cabalgatas de New Orleans, cementerios y risto mejide 8)

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=31013073

All Misery / Flowers


hay que modernizarse 8) bienvenido,yo lo he visto esta mañana,buenisimo

Ricky´s Appetite escribió:

Ripplegan escribió:

Djalma escribió:OTIA, otro aparecido.
Se te echaba a faltar, cuantos discos más ha grabado Lanegan desde tu desaparición?
Welcome

Eso es secreto confidencial, que este topic tiene que rentar todo el año, pero os dejo el video que se han currao los ederly brothers de All misery/flowers, Dulli a la bateria , Lanegan premio a actor revelacion , cabalgatas de New Orleans, cementerios y risto mejide 8)

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=31013073

All Misery / Flowers


hay que modernizarse 8) bienvenido,yo lo he visto esta mañana,buenisimo

Mola

Djalma escribió:OTIA, otro aparecido.
Se te echaba a faltar
Welcome

Vamos calentando el tourrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...... Una entrevista donde Dulli comenta la primera vez que vio a Mark, como un vagabundo moribundo a punto de diñarla... ademas de que de una puta vez sacaran sus discos en solitario despues de esta gira, pero sin cerrar la puerta a otro album twinico...




Greg Dulli and Mark Lanegan: Once Upon a Time in L.A.

Two legendary lead singers converge, croon, confess
By JOHN ALBERT
Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 3:30 pm

It’s only fitting that it has started to rain as I motor east on Sunset through Echo Park to meet Greg Dulli and Mark Lanegan. The two renowned troubadours of heartache and hedonistic self-destruction have recently teamed up as the Gutter Twins for an anticipated new disc called Saturnalia. I have met Dulli once before. A year ago, the two of us spent a lazy afternoon eating sloppy Joes, watching baseball and discussing the drug-fueled madness that had inspired his cathartic “cocaine symphony,” Powder Burns.

I have never met Lanegan before. My only glimpse of the man was years back on the very same stretch of Sunset near the corner of Alvarado. It was late at night when a friend gestured out my car window and spoke the singer’s name. I looked out and saw a tall and gaunt homeless-looking figure walking alone in a long coat, his head bowed.

“A great singer,” my friend said. “But he’s gonna die.”

But then Lanegan survived, flourished in fact. Both men have.

The three of us have arranged to meet at an Eastside watering hole called the Short Stop, which Dulli owns with some friends, near Dodger Stadium. Until they purchased the establishment six years back, the Shortstop was a long-standing hangout. The gun lockers are still there.

“The place is doing great,” Dulli says, as we make our way inside. “I have a new place in New Orleans too. My family owned bars back in Ohio, so this is actually a logical thing for me. My uncle Bud told me, ‘Just keep it dark so everyone looks good.’ ”

And Dulli looks good, in a sort of old-world European way — a few extra pounds, nice black suit and sharp haircut. He seems a man unapologetically in love with all that the world has to offer. We enter a private lounge that he says used to be a bail bondsmen’s office. Lanegan is there, and he is tall, with the slightly roughneck appearance of a man who might operate a carnival ride. He is also quiet, not hostile but definitely cagey. When he does speak, it’s in a raspy, cigarette-burnt whisper.

Both Dulli and Lanegan initially tasted success in the Seattle music scene of the early ’90s, alongside bands like Nirvana and Pearl Jam. Dulli fronted an outfit called the Afghan Whigs, whose major-label debut, Gentlemen, was a pounding, soul-influenced rock album drenched with anguish and frustration. Lanegan was the brooding singer for the Screaming Trees, whose sound mixed psychedelic dirge with feedback-laden Creedence Clearwater–style rock & roll.

“We’ve played in one another’s bands and on each other’s records for a while now,” Lanegan says. “So the Gutter Twins just seemed like a natural progression.”

“I think our being friends over such a long period of time lends a degree of trust that came out in the songs,” Dulli adds. “This record really comes from our friendship as much as anything.”

After their mutual successes in the ’90s, both Dulli and Lanegan respectively self-destructed, and then resurrected themselves as, arguably, far more intriguing solo artists. Dulli has released a number of records as the Twilight Singers, including 2003’s Blackberry Belle, a brooding album inspired by the drug-related death of his close friend, the film director Ted Demme. Lanegan’s solo work has explored a stark country- and blues-infused terrain similar to that of artists like Tom Waits and Townes Van Zandt. His other collaborations, with a host of musicians and in a wide variety of styles, include a stint with metal pioneers Queens of the Stone Age and a record with Scottish singer Isobel Campbell of indie-rock darlings Belle and Sebastian.

“I really like working with different people,” Lanegan explains. “I’ve been blessed because they’ve all been people where I truly love what they do. Basically, it’s a great way to keep interested in music after 20-some years.”

“After you’ve done this so long, you have your way,” Dulli adds. “And unless someone comes along and challenges that way, you run the risk of being static. I think Mark made me a far better songwriter doing this record. It forced me out of the box that I might have unwittingly built for myself and helped me evolve as an artist.”

Saturnalia is undoubtedly an evolution for the two artists, though a subtle and nuanced one. Elements from each artist’s solo work remain, and to good effect. Lanegan’s brutal confessionals merge well with Dulli’s operatic and cinematic soundscapes. In the past, they have referred to themselves as the “satanic Everly Brothers,” and it’s not that far off. The pervasive moodiness is counterbalanced by a surprising amount of heartfelt vocal harmonies. Dulli also plays a lot of Fender Rhodes (think Stevie Wonder) and Mellotron (think “Strawberry Fields”), lending the affair an intriguing post-punk gospel feel. Thematically, Saturnalia talks a lot about sin, redemption and an uncertain notion of hope, which makes perfect sense given the tumultuous arc of the duo’s pasts. In the end, the sound on Saturnalia is a sort of modern soul music, albeit for very dark souls.

“This record is kind of our Once Upon a Time in America,” Dulli says. “Maybe that’s what we should have called it. I mean, it has no overarching theme, no deaf, dumb and blind kid getting thrown in baked beans by Ann-Margret. But these songs are definitely a document of our lives.”

Perhaps surprisingly, the two veteran performers are eager to start touring and playing the songs live. The band is primarily Dulli’s Twilight Singers with a few new additions. Dulli and Lanegan, both unabashed sports fans, say they have made prior arrangements to catch NBA games in every city possible.

“The two of us have done this collectively for 40 years, so you learn what works for you,” Dulli says. “We’ve already been on tour together and been roommates. So we know we can co-exist. But then there’s still a whole lot I don’t know about Mark and probably at least five or six deep, dark secrets he still doesn’t know about me.”

Lanegan shakes his head. “From everything I do know about him, I’m not sure I want to know the rest,” he says.

When asked whether they think their followings mix well, they glance at each other. “I think we have similar audiences,” Lanegan says. “I haven’t taken a poll, but I think there’s a certain connectivity. His fans might dress a little better, though.”

“Your fans are probably more glowering and somber,” Dulli says with a grin. The two of them definitely seem to complement one another as friends and collaborators. It’s an artistic pairing that makes sense in theory and even more so on record. So much that one hopes they will do it again at some point.

“I think we’ll both make our own records after this,” Dulli says. “But the Gutter Twins is not a one-off project. As long as we’re friends and enjoy writing together, then we’ll be Poncho and Lefty. Neither one of us has been a star or a superstar, but we’ve both quietly done our things for 20 years.” He smiles. “And now we have come to proclaim our eminence.”

All Misery Flowers es, junto con Idle Hands, la única que me pone del disco.

Me da pena que no me guste, con todo lo que adoro a Dulli y a Lanegan.

el video
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=31013073

Attention, nuevas canciones añadidas al repertorio de la gira:

Hit the City (de bubblegum)
Land of Cotton/ aka Look Away Dixieland
St. James Infirmary Blues (folksong of anonymous origin.)
Belles (Una cover de un nuevo grupo llamado Vervatir)

Ripplegan escribió:
Look Away Dixieland

El mismo que cantaba Elvis?

Alguien quiere comprarme la entrada?
Es para el sábado 26 de abril en BCN.
La compré sin acordarme que debo asistir a una boda
Ya direis algo, gentuza.

charly escribió:Alguien quiere comprarme la entrada?
Es para el sábado 26 de abril en BCN.
La compré sin acordarme que debo asistir a una boda
Ya direis algo, gentuza.

Te prometo dar el turre con su proxima visita, a ver si tienes suerte, sino no se me ocurre mejor orquesta de boda, que Dulli cantando temas de Supremmes, Outkast etc...

:lol!:

Ricky´s Appetite escribió:

All Misery / Flowers


hay que modernizarse 8) bienvenido,yo lo he visto esta mañana,buenisimo

No los conocía, me encanto la cancion y le voy dar una oportunidad al disco

gracias

Me encaaaaannntaaa, como se nota la mano de Dully, the hand of god
GT al ARF08!

que ganas de que pasen los días!

miss furby escribió:Me encaaaaannntaaa, como se nota la mano de Dully, the hand of god
GT al ARF08!

que ganas de que pasen los días!

hey, hola guapa!

ya os ha costado!

fuisteis al monas ayer al final, no?
a ver si contáis qué tal estuvo en su correspondiente topic!

holaaa Bakaluatuttti esta cosa no envía mails, tengo que mirar el perfil a ver que pasa...

GREEN MANALISHI Enoooorrmeeeessssssss as usual.

hombre ultimamente me repito más que el ajo, pero ....
Green Manalishi al ARF08!!!!

se lo merecen

miss furby escribió:Me encaaaaannntaaa, como se nota la mano de Dully, the hand of god
GT al ARF08!

que ganas de que pasen los días!

Otra captada para la secta Saturna, bien bien...

Que hay del festival Post-Twin en el monasteriolol??



Me encanta esta foto

Enesima colaboracion para este año de mr.Lanegan

Esta vez ha rescatado del olvido a Bomb The Bass uno de los tantos proyectos de Tim Simenon, digo rescatados porque llevaban 14 años sin sacar nada a la luz. ‘Future Chaos’ sera el album en cuestion y es basicamente un album hecho con minimogg y sendas colaboraciones; Mark Lanegan pone las voces y da lustre a Black River.

http://www.myspace.com/bombthebass

Nuevo bolo de los Twins en Dimeadozen, grabado para un programa de radio, incluye el autentico hit de esta gira que es Down the line
THE GUTTER TWINS
Seattle, WA
Mar 4/08 @ KEXP Studios - 90.3 KEXP "Midday Show" FM Radio Afternoon Broadcast / Webcast + Interview
A/A+
17:34

1. intro
2. the body
3. chat
4. i was in love with you
5. chat
6. down the line (jose gonzalez cover)
7. outro

http://www.dimeadozen.org//torrents-details.php?id=187440&viewcomm=2388936

Ripplegan escribió:

miss furby escribió:Me encaaaaannntaaa, como se nota la mano de Dully, the hand of god
GT al ARF08!

que ganas de que pasen los días!

Otra captada para la secta Saturna, bien bien...

Que hay del festival Post-Twin en el monasteriolol??



Me encanta esta foto

hombreeeee voy a ese concierto aunque sea con el espinazo roto!!
para Sesión MOnasterio secundo esa Moción!!!!
y ya puestos a pedir en el Monasterio yo pediría "The best of nineties, the Great days" otra Sesionaza!!! :lol!:

habrá que sobornar a Acreditado y Ricky...me ofrezco a pegar carteles hasta en la bandera del ayuntamiento!
...
o pasarles todas mis drogas químicas

miss furby escribió:

Ripplegan escribió:

miss furby escribió:Me encaaaaannntaaa, como se nota la mano de Dully, the hand of god
GT al ARF08!

que ganas de que pasen los días!

Otra captada para la secta Saturna, bien bien...

Que hay del festival Post-Twin en el monasteriolol??



Me encanta esta foto

hombreeeee voy a ese concierto aunque sea con el espinazo roto!!
para Sesión MOnasterio secundo esa Moción!!!!
y ya puestos a pedir en el Monasterio yo pediría "The best of nineties, the Great days" otra Sesionaza!!! :lol!:

habrá que sobornar a Acreditado y Ricky...me ofrezco a pegar carteles hasta en la bandera del ayuntamiento!
...
o pasarles todas mis drogas químicas

más o menos esa es la idea 8)

Jose Gonzalez se adelanto unos meses al escribir ese hit que es Down the line, luego Greg Dulli lo sobredimensiono junto a los Gutter Twins.

Sras y sres con todos ustedes Down the line The Gutter Twins

(grabado recientemente en un estudio de seattle para el programa KEXP)

http://www.megaupload.com/es/?d=K20ANW5F

Ripplegan escribió:Jose Gonzalez se adelanto unos meses al escribir ese hit que es Down the line, luego Greg Dulli lo sobredimensiono junto a los Gutter Twins.

Sras y sres con todos ustedes Down the line The Gutter Twins

(grabado recientemente en un estudio de seattle para el programa KEXP)

http://www.megaupload.com/es/?d=K20ANW5F

Ricky´s Appetite escribió:

Ripplegan escribió:Jose Gonzalez se adelanto unos meses al escribir ese hit que es Down the line, luego Greg Dulli lo sobredimensiono junto a los Gutter Twins.

Sras y sres con todos ustedes Down the line The Gutter Twins

(grabado recientemente en un estudio de seattle para el programa KEXP)

http://www.megaupload.com/es/?d=K20ANW5F

I see problems down the line
I know that I’m right.
There was a dirt upon your hands
doing the same mistake twice
making the same mistake twice

Come on over and be so caught up
its not about compromising.

I see problems down the line
I know that I’m right
I see darkness down the line
I know its hard to fight.
There was a dirt upon your hands
doing the same mistake twice
making the same mistake twice.

Come on over
be so caught up its all about compromise.

I see problems down the line
I know that I’m right.

Don’t let the darkness eat you up
Don’t let the darkness eat you up
Don’t let the darkness eat you up
Don’t let the darkness eat you up
Don’t let the darkness eat you up
Don’t let the darkness eat you up
Don’t let the darkness eat you up
Don’t let the darkness eat you up

Acabo de enterarme del cartel del Lollapalooza de este año que sera del 1 al 3 de agosto, eso quiere decir que peligra una posible actuacion de los Twinicos en el ARFFF

Radiohead
Rage Against the Machine
Nine Inch Nails
Kanye West
Wilco
The Raconteurs
Louis XIV
Love and Rockets
Gnarls Barkley
Bloc Party
The Black Keys
Broken Social Scene
Lupe Fiasco
Flogging Molly
Mark Ronson
Cat Power
The National
G. Love & Special Sauce
Sharon Jones & the Dap-Kings
Explosions in the Sky
Brand New
Gogol Bordello
Stephen Malkmus & The Jicks
Dierks Bentley
Okkervil River
Amadou & Mariam
Blues Traveler
John Butler Trio
Girl Talk
Your Vegas
CSS
Eli “Paperboy” Reed & the True Loves
Battles
Steel Train
Jamie Lidell
Bang Camaro
Butch Walker
The Blakes
Mates of State
Tally Hall
Spank Rock
White Lies
Brazilian Girls
Magic Wands
Chromeo
Electric Touch
Duffy
Innerpartysystem
The Kills
The Postelles
Rogue Wave
The Parlor Mob
The Go! Team
Bald Eagle
Mason Jennings
Krista
The Gutter Twins
Ha Ha Tonka
Yeasayer
Witchcraft
Grizzly Bear
We Go To 11
MGMT
Sofia Talvik
The Weakerthans
Booka Shade
Santogold
Black Kids
Black Lips
Dr. Dog
Nicole Atkins & the Sea
The Ting Tings
Kid Sister
Office
The Cool Kids
What Made Milwaukee Famous
Does It Offend You, Yeah?
The Whigs
Manchester Orchestra
Foals
Uffie
The Octopus Project
Cadence Weapon
Ferras
De Novo Dahl
Noah and the Whale
Margot & the Nuclear So and So’s
K’NAAN
Serena Ryder
Newton Faulkner

Contrastado, le pone mucho Bete noire

Se me caen los huevos al suelo, la otra noche se cascaron la version del Hold on i'm comin'



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN4DHY_9gOs

Gooood night

Calentando motores... set list reciente y una luonga entrevista que podeis utilizar para que os entre el sueño
Stations
God's Children
All Misery/Flowers
Live With Me
Seven Stories
Idle Hands
Bete Noire
Down The Line*
When the Motherfucking Levee Breaks/I Was In Love With You
St James Infirmary Blues
Belles
Each to Each
Front Street
--------------------------------------------------------
Papillon/Shadow of the Season
Hit The City
King Only
Methamphetamine Blues
Number9

Throughout the interview, Dulli drank iced tea and Lanegan watched the
Bulls play the Celtics on TV (on mute). We broke the ice by chatting
about the 1993 Phillies. Turns out these guys like sports. A lot. In
fact, sports are pretty much the only thing Mark Lanegan wants to talk
about these days...

Pitchfork: How did you end up back on Sub Pop? It's been over a decade and a half since you guys last put out records on that label.

Greg Dulli: The devil you know is better than the devil you don't. That's my answer.

Pitchfork: [laughs] Mark, do you agree? Is that it?

GD: He didn't even hear what I said.

Mark Lanegan: What he said.

Pitchfork: [laughs] OK then! It's funny thinking about
you guys in the context of Sub Pop now; they have such a varied roster,
but very little of it has much in common with the kind of music the
Gutter Twins are making. How does it feel to be on a label with, like,
the Shins and Iron and Wine?
GD: I think the Shins and Iron and Wine make nice music, you
know? I don't know a lot about them but I've heard some stuff. You just
kind of like what you like. Even when I was on Sub Pop, luckily, I
liked Mudhoney, I liked Tad, I liked Nirvana, I liked the Fluid, I
liked L7, I liked Cat Butt. So I did like the bands they were putting
out. When they first started putting out Mark's solo records that, to
me, was their first turn into another style of music. He was certainly
trying something new but...I like what I like, I don't really associate
it with towns or movements of labels.

I listen to new music frequently. Jeff Klein, he plays keyboards in
our group, he's like 29 or 30, he turned me on to Pitchfork and
Stereogum and stuff like that. I don't really read much music stuff but
I was aware of this kind of-- and I'm going to get killed for saying
this-- snarky hipsterism, exclusionary thing. It's like, "We listen to
bands that haven't even formed yet." That punk rock thing of trying to
be cool...


Pitchfork: Well, that attitude certainly isn't anything new, it's not like the internet invented music snobbery...

GD: ...and as soon as some other dude likes what you like you
can't like it anymore. You have to move to the next thing. I just think
that's kind of-- and I'm not saying your site or the site you work for
is like that-- but that's always a thing that repelled me. I mean I can
certainly see a band like Nirvana, like when they started having to
play to the kind of guys that beat them up in high school-- that was
probably shocking. But you make music to move people and you don't get
to pick who you move. You just don't. It's exclusionary and elitist and
I just never felt that way about music, of all things. The great
unifier.

Pitchfork: Mark, do you have anything to add?

ML: [looking at television screen] I was just thinking
how big [Boston Celtics forward] Glen Davis was in college. He was
humongous. They just had a picture of him in his LSU uniform.

GD: Big Baby.

ML: Yeah, he must've weighed like 350.

GD: I think he was pushing 400, I think he was 370.

ML: Wow.

GD: He's still over 300 pounds.

Pitchfork: So Mark, basketball's your big thing? Music and basketball?

ML: I enjoy watching basketball, yeah.

Pitchfork: Do you play at all?

ML: I have not played in quite a few years. Only time I did play recently was me and my dad played in December and he beat me.

GD: In Alaska? Really?

ML: Yeah, he's 73 years old, my dad is.

GD: Where was he shooting from?

ML: Way out.

Pitchfork: Must be in good shape.

GD: I played basketball all through school and then even played
in this 30-and-under league for a little while. It's funny, as long as
I've known him [Lanegan], I guess we've never been around a basketball
court, but at some point this run [we should]. We threw a baseball on
the last Twilights tour, in North Carolina, and my arm hurt for a week
after that. But Mark pitched in high school.

Pitchfork: Greg, do you think you could take Mark in a basketball game? He did get beat by a 73-year-old guy.

GD: If his dad can take him...I'm not saying I could take him in
a one-on-one game, but if his dad beat him it would take me exactly 20
minutes to dial in three shots that are really hard to follow up in
HORSE. Coffin corner, top of the key, way out to the left side, and a
couple of weird lay-ups.
ML: Hope you're good with your left hand.

GD: I am, actually. Are you gonna call left hand shot?

ML: Yeah.

GD: Oh shit. All right.

ML: The gauntlet has been thrown down. [laughs]

GD: Well I'm ready for that. Can you hit with your left hand? Are you ambidextrous?

ML: I shoot really well with my left hand.

GD: Can you throw with your left hand?

ML: I've had to, yeah. Actually I played a game left-handed once.

GD: Wow. What position did you play?

ML: Second base.

Pitchfork: Why?

ML: I fucked up my shoulder and we didn't have enough guys on our team.

Pitchfork: I imagine a basketball team's a lot like a band. Everyone's got their thing...

GD: Everybody's got their role. Drawing up the plays, strategizing before the play. Absolutely.

Pitchfork: You guys both spent many years in a single band, but
now you seem to be drifting around, collaborating with different people
all the time. Is that a result of having been in one group for so long?
Is it kind of like being married and then getting divorced, playing the
field again?

GD: I think when you're young and you get together with a group
of guys who think like you and you start to make something that moves
you as a group of people and you have a common goal, that's an exciting
time. The more years you put behind you, hopefully making music that
surpasses what you did before, you're playing bigger places and it kind
of weirdly becomes a business. In my opinion young bands have a shelf
life and it ranges in time. I'm really glad the Whigs went to make
[final album, 1998's] 1965 because honestly it's my favorite
record that we made. It was the most fun I had on tour with them and I
was even looking forward to making another record with them. In between
that time and the time it took to make another record, it just wasn't
there anymore. And you have to know when that is.
Since then, the ability to play with different people is infinitely
fascinating to me. Just the people I've played with: I've played with
[Cypress Hill DJ/producer] Muggs, I've played with [Italian band]
Afterhours, I've played with Mark, I've played with [British rave
group] Lo Fidelity Allstars, who I love. Intramural [the latest project
from Denver Dalley of Desaparecidos and Statistics]. I've jammed with
Lucinda Williams, you know. And that's not to mention that I played
with the MC5, I played with War, the Whigs toured with Aerosmith and
Neil Young.

So I've kind of gotten to do a lot of things and meet a lot of
people that I admired outside of what I did. When you get a chance to
play with people--informally is one thing, but when you hook up and
make something that's going to last or mean something to someone, I
take it very seriously. I take it no less seriously than the band I was
in for 15 years; it's just a new place that I'm in. I'm in the Gutter
Twins right now and that's what I am. But if I'm a Twilight Singer next
year, it will be with no less passion.


Pitchfork: So what's the plan right now for this? Is there going
to be another Gutter Twins album? Will this name stick around for a
while?
ML: We enjoyed the process of making the record, we enjoyed the
results, we enjoy each other's company, we enjoy traveling together. So
I don't know why we wouldn't make another record. Whether it's the next
thing that we do or not, I can't really say, but I'm sure that there'll
be another one.

GD: I haven't had this much fun touring, ever. I get to hear him
sing every night, I get to sing with him. We've done this so many
times, there's no hassle, the band and crew all get along. It's a joy
to do, you know? And the fact that we go out and there's a rammed house
every night, and they didn't even know the songs...

Pitchfork: Yeah, the record just came out this week.

GD: ...but we won them over every time. It's very encouraging.

Pitchfork: Mark, do you share that feeling? Is this the best time you've ever had on tour?

ML: It's great, I get to hang out with my friends, hang out, play music.

Pitchfork: Does this feel like a comfortable place for you? Is
this is where you want to be-- this band right now? You seem to be a
very restless musical spirit, always looking for something new.

ML: It's just that we've played together a lot of times, this is
new, new songs, new experience. So yeah, of course, I'm digging it.
Pitchfork: You guys are in a lucky place that I'm sure a lot of
bands envy. You've built up a loyal fanbase that will be interested in
pretty much anything you put your name on.

GD: Yeah, but you've got to back it up, man. The thing is, if
you just stick your name on something...eh. You could do yourself
damage, too, by putting your name on something that sucks. And suck is
relative, but I've never put my name on something that I didn't believe
in 100%.

Pitchfork: The rock star perception of you guys is that you're
scary, dangerous, evil. I mean, you call yourselves the Gutter Twins,
for one thing. How much of that is myth, how much of that is theater?
Because I'm sitting here with you guys, and you don't seem very
frightening.

ML: We're too old to be scary.

GD: The interview's not over yet, either.

Pitchfork: [laughs] That's true. But is it a persona? I mean it's a good persona, it makes for great records.

GD: I think a myth is created from truth and I think the fact
that we haven't gone around and publicized every aspect of our lives
like a lot of people do-- it's such an instant gratification backstage
access entertainment world, with websites where you go into people's
houses, "here's my car, here's my girlfriend," and I don't really want
to know all that stuff about people. I would prefer that you were like
Led Zeppelin, who didn't let anybody take pictures and weren't on their
album covers. Pink Floyd, too. When they came to your town, you went
because you wanted to see if they were real or not. And all the stuff:
Jimmy Page lived in Aleister Crowley's castle? Wow. But I didn't get to
see it, you know?

There's just so little mystery left in music or film. It was all
that was magical to me as a child. And I'm a very private person. What
I did in the past or what somebody heard me do or has a bootleg of me
doing...well, if you have a bootleg, then I did it. But I've never
presented myself as anything less than a flawed person.

Pitchfork: You're a private person, but you put forth a public persona that is in some way rooted in who you are, right?

GD: Yeah, but Al Pacino isn't Tony Montana. That's why I always
liked Bowie, he would take it on, he was the Thin White Duke, he was
Ziggy Stardust, he played with that and that's cool. That's why when
the Whigs made 1965 and I wore a hat or a fedora or cock
feather or had a cane or I had a 12-piece band. When you get in that
environment, you start to act like a different person and it's kind of
fun. You get to not be you for two hours and you're entertaining
people. I mean, I certainly wasn't that when I put on my sweatpants and
played checkers in the back of the bus. It's escapism and it's escapism
for the audience and it's escapism for yourself. That's what I've
always loved about music, that I could go be another guy for two hours.
But ultimately it all comes back to: do you have the songs, can you
sing them, do you have a great band that can play them with you? You're
charging money to have people come watch you play; I want them to feel
taken someplace good or provoked into thinking my way for an hour and a
half or two hours. I have been a provoker and I'll probably always be
one in the public arena for the rest of my life.

Parte 2

Pitchfork: Mark, do you feel like you're playing the role of an
entertainer when you're writing songs or when you get on stage? Or do
you feel like you're just being you?

ML: I'm pretty much exactly the same way I am right now. Only a little less talkative.

[Laughter all around]

Pitchfork: One thing I noticed on the Gutter Twins record is
that your voices sound really strong. I mean, both of you have been up
there screaming your lungs out for years and years; how do you keep
your voices in such good shape?
ML: Just lucky I guess. [laughs]

GD: I think that when we started to sing together, just casually
at my house in L.A. eight years ago, singing other people's songs-- we
both are fans of music and keen interpreters-- when we sang together on
my back porch, I remember thinking that we sang well together and it
was very natural, the low end and the high end. And there are times on
this record where I'm the low guy, he's the high guy. Rarely, but it's
cool when it happens. That to me was why I knew this would be cool,
because we didn't have to try, we just did it and it sounded great and
the battle was won right there. All we had to do was put forth the
material to back it up.

When I heard that Massive Attack song ["Live With Me", covered by the Twilight Singers with Lanegan on the 2006 EP A Stitch in Time]
a couple years ago, I knew exactly what to do with it and I called him
and told him, "I have one for us." That sort of reignited the fact that
we should probably finish the Gutter Twins record and get it out before
Chinese Democracy came out.

Pitchfork: And you succeeded. This project had been in the works for something like five years, right?

GD: Since late 2003. The entire process was three years and nine
months from start to finish, but that time is all accounted for. I
think that when he toured with the Twilight Singers, I just asked him
to do one gig and he ended up doing 100. At the end of that we were in
Australia, and he had to go to Scotland to sing with Isobel [Campbell],
and I asked him if he wanted to finish the record this year. He said
yes and I said, "meet me in New Orleans in 30 days." I picked him up 30
days later at the airport in New Orleans and we started working on it.
We worked on it in March and then in May and June, we worked on things
separately and then I went out to L.A. in July and stayed until it was
done.

Pitchfork: I'm sensing a certain dynamic here, between you guys:
Greg, you talk a lot, and Mark doesn't talk a lot. Does it ever reverse
itself?

GD: As soon as you leave it will. And I don't talk a lot, I just fill up the uncomfortable spaces of him not talking. [laughs]

Pitchfork: Well, thank you! So one thing I wanted to talk about is the cover of Saturnalia,
which I think is just gorgeous. It's like something terrible is about
to happen or something terrible just happened. What's the story behind
that image?
GD: I have a friend named Frank Relle who takes long exposure
night shots of New Orleans. I was already familiar with some of his
work, but he took a nighttime shot of [New Orleans jazz club] Vaughn's
for [jazz musician] Kermit Ruffins' record cover [2007's Live at Vaughn's].
Kermit has been playing Thursday nights at Vaughn's for 20 years. I
really liked that shot. He showed me a couple shots after Katrina. I
believe the one we used is from Solomon Street, down in the Ninth Ward.
The two chairs got me and the empty space, the nakedness of the shot.
Scott Ford, who plays bass in the group, tweaked it out for its
apocalyptic drama.

Pitchfork: The sky looks amazing.


GD: Yeah, he did the sky. I've always been a fan of album covers
with no writing on them and have used them a lot in my own groups.
Pitchfork: But then the label always puts a sticker on the cover with the band name on it.

GD: But you take it off. In the end it's probably cost me sales
because they don't know who I am. But again, I like what I like, so I
showed the picture to Mark and he just wrote back, "I love it," and we
had the cover.

Pitchfork: When you open the CD, the first thing you see is a
photo of you guys laughing. I thought that made for a great
counterpoint to the desolation of the cover. There's a sense of joy
there. Was that the intention?

ML: I just liked it because it reminded me of the Muddy Waters record Electric Mud.
Inside, there's a picture of him sitting in a barber's chair getting
his hair cut, just so random and weird. It was fitting somehow.

GD: Yeah, I mean, we're friends. We don't sit around and count the days until the apocalypse, it's not like we're Satan's elves.

Pitchfork: What do you guys do together as friends, when you're not making music?

GD: We went to a Bulls game last night. Shitty game. Usually we
just hang out over lunch and we'll watch sports together. But a lot of
times we don't live in the same town so we don't hang out. We have, of
course, lives outside of music. But whenever I'm in California I
probably see him like once a week.

Pitchfork: You live in L.A. and New Orleans.

GD: Yeah.

Pitchfork: And you own a bar in L.A.?

GD: I own two bars in L.A., I own one bar in New Orleans.

Pitchfork: You're a mogul!

GD: Uh, mogul, no. "Burgeoning entrepreneur" perhaps would be
the phrase I would use. Bring on the passive income, that's what I'm
talking about.
Pitchfork: Mark, is music it for you? Do you do other stuff?

ML: You mean to make a living?

Pitchfork: Yes.

ML: No, I pretty much just play music.

GD: Counting stacks of money he makes from his lucrative...

ML: ...musical career. [laughs]

Pitchfork: Mark, I want to talk about your collaboration with
Isobel Campbell. You just announced this week that you two have a
second album in the works. [Sunday at Devil Dirt is due out May
5 in the UK on V2/Cooperative Music.] When you two collaborate, she
writes all of the music and then you come in and sing it. That's an
interesting dynamic, because you usually write the music that you sing.
What drew you to that project?

ML: It's just something different. I could see my place in it
and it's something outside the norm, which keeps music interesting for
me.

Pitchfork: Are you going to tour with Isobel Campbell again?

ML: A little bit, yes.

Pitchfork: The title of the Gutter Twins album, Saturnalia,
is the name of an ancient Roman festival during which slaves and
masters trade places. Who is the master in the Gutter Twins? Who is the
slave? Or are you both the master or the slave?

GD: I believe it was Depeche Mode who said, "we play a game
called master and servant." So it's perhaps our homage to Depeche Mode,
perhaps that's the best way I can describe it. I think you can find
yourself in life perhaps not really being the master of your own life
and it is within your own will and tenacity whether you switch the
roles or not. So I think it has more to do with that, a person's
individual will to be master or servant. I've been both in my own life
and I prefer the former.

Pitchfork: The Gutter Twins have been covering the José González song "Down the Line" on this tour. What drew you to that particular song?

GD: Well, I love him. I really love that type of music where
someone can take a guitar or light instrumentation and a beautiful
voice and can send me somewhere. There are two artists currently who do
that to me better than anyone. José González is one and Vetiver is the
other. I can honestly say that I have all the Vetiver records, all the
José González records, and I never skip any of their songs. I love all
of their songs. And I really can't say that about anybody else. I know
Vetiver has a new album coming out and I cannot wait to hear it. I love
them. I think that guy's voice is beautiful; I think he writes perfect
little songs. I hope he becomes rich and famous--at least rich. And
José González, too. We were playing this festival a couple years ago in
Norway and I was backstage and I heard this guy playing guitar. I just
kind of peeked in, didn't bother him, didn't say anything. I looked at
his name right on the little cabin, it said "José González". I heard
him play, he wasn't singing or anything. Then I heard him sing and I
went, "oh my goodness, beautiful voice."
From that I went and started listening to him. His covers are
fantastic. That Knife song-- unbelievable. The Kylie Minogue song
breaks my fucking heart. And the Massive Attack song that he did. So
with his covers I felt like he was ripe to be covered. "Down the Line"
was one that I felt like I could do. I was doing this acoustic show in
Seattle back in October with Jeff Klein and Petra Haden. We did it in
my living room and whipped it up and we had it. We ran through it one
time and it was like oh, sweet.

Pitchfork: That version is up on the Twilight Singers' MySpace page.

GD: Yeah, then he sent a message to my manager that he liked it,
too. I would like to see him live one day. I would love to see Vetiver
live one day too. The only bands that I've YouTubed are those two.

Pitchfork: Have you seen the "Down the Line" video?

GD: Yeah. With the pig? Pig man? It's fantastic. I also like MGMT.

Pitchfork: Really? I think they're terrible. Except for that one song, "Time to Pretend".

GD: You don't like "Electric Feel"? "Electric Feel" is killer,
man. That song is the shit. I like them, I like Yeasayer. Who else do I
like right now? I don't know if I could find myself really listening to
their records that much, but I found myself at a Brightblack Morning
Light concert with these crazy kaleidoscope 3D glasses that they gave
out at the show. I did smoke some reefer at that show and I totally dug
it. Give MGMT another...I feel the backlash coming on those guys.

Pitchfork: I've been trying, man. Everybody loves 'em.

GD: They're good-looking kids. I saw them on "David Letterman"
and they wore Dracula capes and I was like, sweet. Drummer even in a
Dracula cape, sweet. They seem tentative live.

Pitchfork: They're terrible live.

GD: The heavy hand of Dave Fridmann is all over their record,
you know. But they'll figure it out. I think they'll be very good and I
think they'll be very good for a while.

Pitchfork: Have you heard this new band called the Whigs?

GD: I have not heard them. I've heard of them and best of luck
to them. My next band is going to be called the Stones. Or the Lips. I
couldn't be bothered to see them. But I'll accidentally hear them one
day, I'm sure-- I hear they're getting pretty popular.
Pitchfork: You also started a Twilight trend. There are a few Twilight bands out there now: the Twilight Sad, Twilight Sleep...

GD: Not only that, but it's Twilight with an S! Using Twilight is fine but use another consonant to follow it!

Pitchfork: Nobody really seems to have followed the Screaming
Trees' example, though. I guess there are a few Trees bands: Taken by
Trees, the Dead Trees...

ML: Screamin' Cheetah Wheelies. That's the only one I can think of. Screaming for Vengeance, the Judas Priest tribute band. [laughs]

Parte 3

Pitchfork: You guys were both at one point in MGMT or
Yeasayer's spot, the buzzed-about hot new thing. What would you say to
these dudes? Obviously it's a very different landscape now than when
you were starting out.

GD: Get everything up front. Get all the money up front. Unless
you know something that I don't know, always take it up front. Don't
wait for it, it never comes.

Pitchfork: Mark?

GD: Mark, what would you tell the young kids starting out in music today? [laughs]

[Lanegan rolls eyes]

Pitchfork: Good advice! Mark, what artists are you excited about right now?

ML: Delroy Wilson.

GD: A 70s reggae artist.

ML: Johnny Clarke, another 70s reggae artist. And I was listening to a lot of Lightning Bolt the other day.

GD: The other day? You've been listening to Lightning Bolt for a couple of weeks, man.

ML: In between Delroy Wilson.

Pitchfork: That's a nice contrast-- one is very chill, and one is not chill at all.

ML: But Lightning Bolt is chill. They totally chill me out for some reason.

GD: I listened to Lightning Bolt and it made me feel like I
needed to lay down. I liked them but it was very aggressive. I liked
it, don't get me wrong-- it reminded me of Squirrel Bait a little bit,
some of the drumming. But I was riding on the train with him in Belgium
while he was listening to Lightning Bolt at full fucking blast and he
seemed to be in a transcendental, peaceful state. So what works for
people, I don't know. Have you heard Cully [Symington]'s band 1986?

ML: I have not.


GD: They're a two-man outfit, too. The guy kind of sounds like J
Mascis a little bit, but they're pushing way harder that Dinosaur. The
absence of a bass player always makes things go faster and hit harder
in the high-end range. Check it out. Cully's our drummer, Cully's 23
and he's a badass.

Pitchfork: I suspect you have to be to play with you guys.

GD: Full-blown badass and he's got this band called 1986 that are, I think, really, really great.

Pitchfork: Mark, would you ever want to make a reggae record or a brutal noise record?

ML: Maybe a brutal noise reggae record.

GD: Maybe you could get Dr. Know to produce it. That would be the guy.

Pitchfork: Speaking of Bad Brains and Dinosaur Jr., with all of
these reunions going on lately, did either of you guys ever want to
jump on the reunion train with your old bands? The Afghan Whigs
recorded a couple new songs for last year's Unbreakable retrospective and there were rumors of some live shows.

GD: Anything lower than mid-six figures is not going to get me
interested in that. And honestly, I just don't want to. It's nothing
against those bands that have gotten together because for whatever
reason they've gotten together it's working for them. I'm guessing that
a lot of that is a financial thing, far be it from me to judge anyone.
I'll say this, I saw Dinosaur in New Orleans in December and they were
awesome. They were actually really good and the new songs that I heard
sounded good. So if we re playing festivals this summer and My Bloody
Valentine is on one of those bills, I will go watch them play.

Pitchfork: I'm kind of afraid of the My Bloody Valentine reunion. It might be great, but...

GD: You run the risk of falling on your face, but, again, music
is an individual pursuit-- it is made to please yourself first. The
pleasure of other people is a byproduct of the pleasure that comes from
yourself so again I cannot judge or look down on someone who does
whatever they feel like doing. Conversely, for me the past is the past
and I would hate to dilute the great times I had in the Afghan Whigs by
dragging it back out and beating its corpse. I just don't know if I
could do that.

Pitchfork: Mark, do you share those feelings?

ML: I share those feelings and I have a great many more of those feelings. [laughs]
I prefer to stay in the here and now and move forward. There's a reason
why it's not part of my life anymore nor can I ever see it being a part
of my life again.
GD: I look at it this way: if he or I were having to rehearse
for a reunion tour, you don't have time to write new songs that mean
something to you now. We've made careers after our groups that people
come to. There are people that I've met that didn't know who the Afghan
Whigs were when they came to a Twilight Singers show and that's great.
I loved being in the Afghan Whigs, Rick [McCollum] and John [Curley]
are still two of my best friends ever, and when we did the songs that
we did for the retrospective it was fun with the understanding that
that was it. We were doing someone at Rhino-- a mutual friend of all of
ours-- a favor by doing that. It was fun, it was so much fun, but then
it became not fun and that's when you know. It's like, you don't go
shacking up with your ex-girlfriend or ex-boyfriend. It ends in tears.

Pitchfork: When Unbreakable came out, there was talk of the Afghan Whigs doing a video for one of the new songs.

GD: Lies, lies, lies.

Pitchfork: I specifically remember an interview you did with Billboard that mentioned a video for "I'm a Soldier".

GD: I lie all the time. [laughs] That is my right as a liar.

Pitchfork: Are you guys going to make any Gutter Twins videos?

GD: We made one for "All Misery/Flowers"
down in New Orleans and that one's done now, but it's the one for "Idle
Hands" that I cannot wait to see. That's all I'm going to say. I cannot
wait to see it. We are not in it but I cannot wait to watch it.
Pitchfork: Greg, one thing I wanted to ask about was how the
Twilight Singers were one of the first people to cover Outkast's "Hey
Ya", and then you were one of the first people to cover Gnarls
Barkley's "Crazy"...

GD: ...and we would've covered [Rihanna's] "Umbrella"!

Pitchfork: That was my question!

ML: Why did you not?

GD: Because we weren't touring. But the first time I heard that
song I went, "oh shit." Loved it, loved it. I would've done it in a
fucking heartbeat. And I would've done it before everyone else like I
did the other ones. I did it in my house. I had a version of it that I
played for myself.
Pitchfork: Every cover of "Umbrella" that I've heard has sucked.

GD: Yeah, when people do them just like they were already done:
boring. Actually, more than "Hey Ya", I loved the cover that we did of
"Roses", the Outkast song.

Pitchfork: I don't think I've heard that, actually. Was it live only or did you record it?

GD: Yeah, it's live, but there's a bootleg of it somewhere. It's
on piano, it's a very gospel-sounding song. [TV on the Radio's] "Wolf
Like Me" was good too, I thought.
Pitchfork: What is it about a song that makes you want to cover it?

GD: I just hear it. It's gotta be great, it's got to make my
hair stand up and I have to wish that I wrote it and then I wish it so
much that I do write it again for me. And it's always for me. It's for
my own entertainment. Again, if someone else likes them, great, but you
are indulging me watching me do that.

Pitchfork: Your songs have been covered by Dashboard Confessional, the New Amsterdams...

GD: Haven't heard it.

Pitchfork: Emo guys seem to like you. Why do you think that is?

GD: I don't know. He was asking me that the other day. I don't know.

ML: There's nothing wrong with it, it just seems a little weird.

GD: Perhaps it's because I'm the Godfather of Emo. [laughs]
It's weird, emo, which is short for emotional-- of course music should
be emotional. It's like soul music, isn't it all soul music? Otherwise
what is it, non-soul music? I-have-no-soul music? Soulless music?
People need to put a name on something to identify it, and I understand
it, but I have not heard either one of those covers.

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01. Intro/The Stations.

02. God's Children.

03. All misery/Flowers.

04. Live With Me.

05. Seven Stories Underground.

06. Idle Hands.

07. Bete Noir.

08. Down The line.

09. I Was In Love With You.

10. St James.

11. Belles.

12. Eat A Peach.

13. Front Street.

14. Encore Break.

15. Papillon.

16. Hit the City.

17. King Only.

18. Methamphetamine Blues.

19. Number 9.


Este es, de este martes 8)

Podemos seguir sentados, no habra reunion de ambas bandas a corto ni medio plazo, al menos no por la pasta, que dice mucho

GD:I just don't want to. It's nothing
against those bands that have gotten together because for whatever
reason they've gotten together it's working for them. I'm guessing that
a lot of that is a financial thing, far be it from me to judge anyone.
Conversely, for me the past is the past and I would hate to dilute the great times I had in the Afghan Whigs by dragging it back out and beating its corpse. I just don't know if I
could do that.

Pitchfork: Mark, do you share those feelings?

ML: I share those feelings and I have a great many more of those feelings. [laughs]
I prefer to stay in the here and now and move forward. There's a reason
why it's not part of my life anymore nor can I ever see it being a part
of my life again.
GD: I look at it this way: if he or I were having to rehearse
for a reunion tour, you don't have time to write new songs that mean
something to you now. We've made careers after our groups that people
come to. There are people that I've met that didn't know who the Afghan
Whigs were when they came to a Twilight Singers show and that's great.
I loved being in the Afghan Whigs, Rick [McCollum] and John [Curley]
are still two of my best friends ever, and when we did the songs that
we did for the retrospective it was fun with the understanding that
that was it. We were doing someone at Rhino-- a mutual friend of all of
ours-- a favor by doing that. It was fun, it was so much fun, but then
it became not fun and that's when you know. It's like, you don't go
shacking up with your ex-girlfriend or ex-boyfriend. It ends in tears.

Ripplegan escribió:Podemos seguir sentados, no habra reunion de ambas bandas a corto ni medio plazo, al menos no por la pasta, que dice mucho

GD:I just don't want to. It's nothing
against those bands that have gotten together because for whatever
reason they've gotten together it's working for them. I'm guessing that
a lot of that is a financial thing, far be it from me to judge anyone.
Conversely, for me the past is the past and I would hate to dilute the great times I had in the Afghan Whigs by dragging it back out and beating its corpse. I just don't know if I
could do that.

Pitchfork: Mark, do you share those feelings?

ML: I share those feelings and I have a great many more of those feelings. [laughs]
I prefer to stay in the here and now and move forward. There's a reason
why it's not part of my life anymore nor can I ever see it being a part
of my life again.
GD: I look at it this way: if he or I were having to rehearse
for a reunion tour, you don't have time to write new songs that mean
something to you now. We've made careers after our groups that people
come to. There are people that I've met that didn't know who the Afghan
Whigs were when they came to a Twilight Singers show and that's great.
I loved being in the Afghan Whigs, Rick [McCollum] and John [Curley]
are still two of my best friends ever, and when we did the songs that
we did for the retrospective it was fun with the understanding that
that was it. We were doing someone at Rhino-- a mutual friend of all of
ours-- a favor by doing that. It was fun, it was so much fun, but then
it became not fun and that's when you know. It's like, you don't go
shacking up with your ex-girlfriend or ex-boyfriend. It ends in tears.

ya lo sabiamos no?
la cosa esta chunga y no es gente que mire hacia atras

Ricky´s Appetite escribió:

Ripplegan escribió:Podemos seguir sentados, no habra reunion de ambas bandas a corto ni medio plazo, al menos no por la pasta, que dice mucho

GD:I just don't want to. It's nothing
against those bands that have gotten together because for whatever
reason they've gotten together it's working for them. I'm guessing that
a lot of that is a financial thing, far be it from me to judge anyone.
Conversely, for me the past is the past and I would hate to dilute the great times I had in the Afghan Whigs by dragging it back out and beating its corpse. I just don't know if I
could do that.

Pitchfork: Mark, do you share those feelings?

ML: I share those feelings and I have a great many more of those feelings. [laughs]
I prefer to stay in the here and now and move forward. There's a reason
why it's not part of my life anymore nor can I ever see it being a part
of my life again.
GD: I look at it this way: if he or I were having to rehearse
for a reunion tour, you don't have time to write new songs that mean
something to you now. We've made careers after our groups that people
come to. There are people that I've met that didn't know who the Afghan
Whigs were when they came to a Twilight Singers show and that's great.
I loved being in the Afghan Whigs, Rick [McCollum] and John [Curley]
are still two of my best friends ever, and when we did the songs that
we did for the retrospective it was fun with the understanding that
that was it. We were doing someone at Rhino-- a mutual friend of all of
ours-- a favor by doing that. It was fun, it was so much fun, but then
it became not fun and that's when you know. It's like, you don't go
shacking up with your ex-girlfriend or ex-boyfriend. It ends in tears.

ya lo sabiamos no?
la cosa esta chunga y no es gente que mire hacia atras

Cierto, pero no veas la perra que le da a la gente con lo de las reuniones , no estan en un momento bajo de su carrera, asi que ni quieren ni lo necesitan. Aunque sin renegar de aquello, que todavia nos sorprenden metiendo en sus set list Shadow of the season y Crime scene part.1 y otras perlas

Ripplegan escribió:

Ricky´s Appetite escribió:

Ripplegan escribió:Podemos seguir sentados, no habra reunion de ambas bandas a corto ni medio plazo, al menos no por la pasta, que dice mucho

GD:I just don't want to. It's nothing
against those bands that have gotten together because for whatever
reason they've gotten together it's working for them. I'm guessing that
a lot of that is a financial thing, far be it from me to judge anyone.
Conversely, for me the past is the past and I would hate to dilute the great times I had in the Afghan Whigs by dragging it back out and beating its corpse. I just don't know if I
could do that.

Pitchfork: Mark, do you share those feelings?

ML: I share those feelings and I have a great many more of those feelings. [laughs]
I prefer to stay in the here and now and move forward. There's a reason
why it's not part of my life anymore nor can I ever see it being a part
of my life again.
GD: I look at it this way: if he or I were having to rehearse
for a reunion tour, you don't have time to write new songs that mean
something to you now. We've made careers after our groups that people
come to. There are people that I've met that didn't know who the Afghan
Whigs were when they came to a Twilight Singers show and that's great.
I loved being in the Afghan Whigs, Rick [McCollum] and John [Curley]
are still two of my best friends ever, and when we did the songs that
we did for the retrospective it was fun with the understanding that
that was it. We were doing someone at Rhino-- a mutual friend of all of
ours-- a favor by doing that. It was fun, it was so much fun, but then
it became not fun and that's when you know. It's like, you don't go
shacking up with your ex-girlfriend or ex-boyfriend. It ends in tears.

ya lo sabiamos no?
la cosa esta chunga y no es gente que mire hacia atras

Cierto, pero no veas la perra que le da a la gente con lo de las reuniones , no estan en un momento bajo de su carrera, asi que ni quieren ni lo necesitan. Aunque sin renegar de aquello, que todavia nos sorprenden metiendo en sus set list Shadow of the season y [b]Crime scene part.1 [/b]y otras perlas

buahhhhhhhh me da algo si oigo esa en directo

From the Scott Ford board:

AB, Brussels
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It was a good show but way too short. The AB, a 2000 capacity venue, was sold out and gave the band a warm welcome.
The setlist was the usual stuff over the past shows.
But
after only 45 minutes and a breathtaking version of St. James
Infirmary, the band left the stage. It took a while until they came
back but Mr. Dulli was missing. Mark then told the audience that Greg
wasn't feeling well and wouldn't be back. They played three more songs
and finished after about an hour with Methamphetamine Blues.

mmmm Cuidate Greg

Ripplegan escribió:

From the Scott Ford board:

AB, Brussels
« Thread Started Today at 8:27pm »

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It was a good show but way too short. The AB, a 2000 capacity venue, was sold out and gave the band a warm welcome.
The setlist was the usual stuff over the past shows.
But
after only 45 minutes and a breathtaking version of St. James
Infirmary, the band left the stage. It took a while until they came
back but Mr. Dulli was missing. Mark then told the audience that Greg
wasn't feeling well and wouldn't be back. They played three more songs
and finished after about an hour with Methamphetamine Blues.

mmmm Cuidate Greg

12 abr 2008, 09:00

For Immediate Release: Gutter Twins AB Show Last night's show at Ancienne Belgique was unfortunately cut short after 9 songs, when singer Greg Dulli became seriously ill during the performance. While the rest of the band returned to the stage for a three song encore, Greg was rushed by ambulance to the local hospital where he was diagnosed with dehydration and hyperthermia, requiring an overnight stay and continued observation. We are happy to report that Greg is now doing well after being put on bed rest, which unfortunately resulted in the cancellation of the show in Rotterdam. Under doctor's orders, Greg has been told to rest for the next couple of days and as such the Gutter Twins tour will resume at Vega in Copenhagen on April 14th. The band will make every effort to return to Belgium and Holland this Summer, and we thank those of you who sent well wishes. Sincerely, Scott Ford

Lo dicho mejorese sr. Dulli

Por cierto que si la banda planea recuperar esos conciertos en el verano, es que los Twins son totalmente azkenables

Ya tengo la entrada para el de Bilbo.

Ripplegan escribió:

Ripplegan escribió:

From the Scott Ford board:

AB, Brussels
« Thread Started Today at 8:27pm »

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
It was a good show but way too short. The AB, a 2000 capacity venue, was sold out and gave the band a warm welcome.
The setlist was the usual stuff over the past shows.
But
after only 45 minutes and a breathtaking version of St. James
Infirmary, the band left the stage. It took a while until they came
back but Mr. Dulli was missing. Mark then told the audience that Greg
wasn't feeling well and wouldn't be back. They played three more songs
and finished after about an hour with Methamphetamine Blues.

mmmm Cuidate Greg

12 abr 2008, 09:00

For Immediate Release: Gutter Twins AB Show Last night's show at Ancienne Belgique was unfortunately cut short after 9 songs, when singer Greg Dulli became seriously ill during the performance. While the rest of the band returned to the stage for a three song encore, Greg was rushed by ambulance to the local hospital where he was diagnosed with dehydration and hyperthermia, requiring an overnight stay and continued observation. We are happy to report that Greg is now doing well after being put on bed rest, which unfortunately resulted in the cancellation of the show in Rotterdam. Under doctor's orders, Greg has been told to rest for the next couple of days and as such the Gutter Twins tour will resume at Vega in Copenhagen on April 14th. The band will make every effort to return to Belgium and Holland this Summer, and we thank those of you who sent well wishes. Sincerely, Scott Ford

Lo dicho mejorese sr. Dulli

Por cierto que si la banda planea recuperar esos conciertos en el verano, es que los Twins son totalmente azkenables

se va a poner bien no?

Ricky´s Appetite escribió:

Ripplegan escribió:

Ripplegan escribió:

From the Scott Ford board:

AB, Brussels
« Thread Started Today at 8:27pm »

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
It was a good show but way too short. The AB, a 2000 capacity venue, was sold out and gave the band a warm welcome.
The setlist was the usual stuff over the past shows.
But
after only 45 minutes and a breathtaking version of St. James
Infirmary, the band left the stage. It took a while until they came
back but Mr. Dulli was missing. Mark then told the audience that Greg
wasn't feeling well and wouldn't be back. They played three more songs
and finished after about an hour with Methamphetamine Blues.

mmmm Cuidate Greg

12 abr 2008, 09:00

For Immediate Release: Gutter Twins AB Show Last night's show at Ancienne Belgique was unfortunately cut short after 9 songs, when singer Greg Dulli became seriously ill during the performance. While the rest of the band returned to the stage for a three song encore, Greg was rushed by ambulance to the local hospital where he was diagnosed with dehydration and hyperthermia, requiring an overnight stay and continued observation. We are happy to report that Greg is now doing well after being put on bed rest, which unfortunately resulted in the cancellation of the show in Rotterdam. Under doctor's orders, Greg has been told to rest for the next couple of days and as such the Gutter Twins tour will resume at Vega in Copenhagen on April 14th. The band will make every effort to return to Belgium and Holland this Summer, and we thank those of you who sent well wishes. Sincerely, Scott Ford

Lo dicho mejorese sr. Dulli

Por cierto que si la banda planea recuperar esos conciertos en el verano, es que los Twins son totalmente azkenables

se va a poner bien no?

El ultimo parte medico señala que necesita reposo un par de dias, no reviste gravedad.

A hidratarse pues....

Con Ron mejor, pero sin comerse los hielos.

Poco que contar hoy sobre vuestro grupo preferido 8) , con Dulli en cuarentena se supone que hoy reaparecen con un sold out en Copenhagen.

Video de relleno: ni mas ni menos que una cover de Hold on i'm comin' de Sam & Dave que se repita...

La Motta escribió:All Misery Flowers es, junto con Idle Hands, la única que me pone del disco.

Me da pena que no me guste, con todo lo que adoro a Dulli y a Lanegan.

A mi tampoco me gusta el disco. Bajon total.

fallenstar. escribió:

La Motta escribió:All Misery Flowers es, junto con Idle Hands, la única que me pone del disco.

Me da pena que no me guste, con todo lo que adoro a Dulli y a Lanegan.

A mi tampoco me gusta el disco. Bajon total.

Argumentese sr.estrella caida, no puedo estar en mas desacuerdo con usted; Saturnalia es un trabajo soberbio, muy superior a la ultima entrega de Twilight Singers, y a lo ultimo que ha hecho Lanegan desde Bubblegum, las composiciones, registros de voz, son de lo mejor que han hecho estos dos en mucho tiempo, ademas se demuestra que el disco gusta y mucho, en cada una de sus actuaciones, ya que lo presentan de cabo a rabo sin que el publico pida Gospel plow o What jail is like... Lo unico en lo que puedo poner un pero, es en la produccion casera de Dulli, este trabajo en manos de un Drakoulias, O'Brien, o Goss por citar algunos hubiese ganado muchos enteros

Good night

Ripplegan escribió:

fallenstar. escribió:

La Motta escribió:All Misery Flowers es, junto con Idle Hands, la única que me pone del disco.

Me da pena que no me guste, con todo lo que adoro a Dulli y a Lanegan.

A mi tampoco me gusta el disco. Bajon total.

Argumentese sr.estrella caida, no puedo estar en mas desacuerdo con usted; Saturnalia es un trabajo soberbio, muy superior a la ultima entrega de Twilight Singers, y a lo ultimo que ha hecho Lanegan desde Bubblegum, las composiciones, registros de voz, son de lo mejor que han hecho estos dos en mucho tiempo, ademas se demuestra que el disco gusta y mucho, en cada una de sus actuaciones, ya que lo presentan de cabo a rabo sin que el publico pida Gospel plow o What jail is like... Lo unico en lo que puedo poner un pero, es en la produccion casera de Dulli, este trabajo en manos de un Drakoulias, O'Brien, o Goss por citar algunos hubiese ganado muchos enteros

Good night

Hey Ripple cómo vas??!!??

aquí de nuevo en el foro...habiendo enterrado a Erica Kane de momento para dejar de provocar equívocos.
A Barna irás fijo pero vas a hacer doblete con los gemelos???

Un saludo!

Sikander dixit.

Ricky´s Appetite escribió:

Ripplegan escribió:

Ripplegan escribió:

From the Scott Ford board:

AB, Brussels
« Thread Started Today at 8:27pm »

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
It was a good show but way too short. The AB, a 2000 capacity venue, was sold out and gave the band a warm welcome.
The setlist was the usual stuff over the past shows.
But
after only 45 minutes and a breathtaking version of St. James
Infirmary, the band left the stage. It took a while until they came
back but Mr. Dulli was missing. Mark then told the audience that Greg
wasn't feeling well and wouldn't be back. They played three more songs
and finished after about an hour with Methamphetamine Blues.

mmmm Cuidate Greg

12 abr 2008, 09:00

For Immediate Release: Gutter Twins AB Show Last night's show at Ancienne Belgique was unfortunately cut short after 9 songs, when singer Greg Dulli became seriously ill during the performance. While the rest of the band returned to the stage for a three song encore, Greg was rushed by ambulance to the local hospital where he was diagnosed with dehydration and hyperthermia, requiring an overnight stay and continued observation. We are happy to report that Greg is now doing well after being put on bed rest, which unfortunately resulted in the cancellation of the show in Rotterdam. Under doctor's orders, Greg has been told to rest for the next couple of days and as such the Gutter Twins tour will resume at Vega in Copenhagen on April 14th. The band will make every effort to return to Belgium and Holland this Summer, and we thank those of you who sent well wishes. Sincerely, Scott Ford

Lo dicho mejorese sr. Dulli

Por cierto que si la banda planea recuperar esos conciertos en el verano, es que los Twins son totalmente azkenables

se va a poner bien no?

deberia es solo un golpe de calor al estilo skorpia, de toda la vida... un poco de reposo, una resaca y como new...

Sikander escribió:

Ripplegan escribió:

fallenstar. escribió:

La Motta escribió:All Misery Flowers es, junto con Idle Hands, la única que me pone del disco.

Me da pena que no me guste, con todo lo que adoro a Dulli y a Lanegan.

A mi tampoco me gusta el disco. Bajon total.

Argumentese sr.estrella caida, no puedo estar en mas desacuerdo con usted; Saturnalia es un trabajo soberbio, muy superior a la ultima entrega de Twilight Singers, y a lo ultimo que ha hecho Lanegan desde Bubblegum, las composiciones, registros de voz, son de lo mejor que han hecho estos dos en mucho tiempo, ademas se demuestra que el disco gusta y mucho, en cada una de sus actuaciones, ya que lo presentan de cabo a rabo sin que el publico pida Gospel plow o What jail is like... Lo unico en lo que puedo poner un pero, es en la produccion casera de Dulli, este trabajo en manos de un Drakoulias, O'Brien, o Goss por citar algunos hubiese ganado muchos enteros

Good night

Hey Ripple cómo vas??!!??

aquí de nuevo en el foro...habiendo enterrado a Erica Kane de momento para dejar de provocar equívocos.
A Barna irás fijo pero vas a hacer doblete con los gemelos???
e
Un saludo!

Sikander dixit.

Que bien tenerte de vuelta, mas de alguno se llevara un chasco cuando se entere que te has cargado a Erika.

A los gemelos Twinikos los veo en un principio, solo en Barna, si sale algun tema laboral por Madrid ese dia, voy de cabeza a la Joy.

Ripplegan escribió:

Sikander escribió:

Ripplegan escribió:

fallenstar. escribió:

La Motta escribió:All Misery Flowers es, junto con Idle Hands, la única que me pone del disco.

Me da pena que no me guste, con todo lo que adoro a Dulli y a Lanegan.

A mi tampoco me gusta el disco. Bajon total.

Argumentese sr.estrella caida, no puedo estar en mas desacuerdo con usted; Saturnalia es un trabajo soberbio, muy superior a la ultima entrega de Twilight Singers, y a lo ultimo que ha hecho Lanegan desde Bubblegum, las composiciones, registros de voz, son de lo mejor que han hecho estos dos en mucho tiempo, ademas se demuestra que el disco gusta y mucho, en cada una de sus actuaciones, ya que lo presentan de cabo a rabo sin que el publico pida Gospel plow o What jail is like... Lo unico en lo que puedo poner un pero, es en la produccion casera de Dulli, este trabajo en manos de un Drakoulias, O'Brien, o Goss por citar algunos hubiese ganado muchos enteros

Good night

Hey Ripple cómo vas??!!??

aquí de nuevo en el foro...habiendo enterrado a Erica Kane de momento para dejar de provocar equívocos.
A Barna irás fijo pero vas a hacer doblete con los gemelos???
e
Un saludo!

Sikander dixit.

Que bien tenerte de vuelta, mas de alguno se llevara un chasco cuando se entere que te has cargado a Erika.

A los gemelos Twinikos los veo en un principio, solo en Barna, si sale algun tema laboral por Madrid ese dia, voy de cabeza a la Joy.

Ok ya me conterás. Serás bienvenido si te pasas por la capital. Yo tengo pendiente el viaje a Barna...pero al economía, como en todos los periódicos dicen, va fatal.

Por cierto, echa un vistazo a esto:

http://vombiezomitblog.blogspot.com/2008/02/soulsavers-world-cafe-wxpn-studios.html

Ese "Revival" en directo!!!

Sikander dixit.

Sikander escribió:

Ripplegan escribió:

Sikander escribió:

Ripplegan escribió:

fallenstar. escribió:

La Motta escribió:All Misery Flowers es, junto con Idle Hands, la única que me pone del disco.

Me da pena que no me guste, con todo lo que adoro a Dulli y a Lanegan.

A mi tampoco me gusta el disco. Bajon total.

Argumentese sr.estrella caida, no puedo estar en mas desacuerdo con usted; Saturnalia es un trabajo soberbio, muy superior a la ultima entrega de Twilight Singers, y a lo ultimo que ha hecho Lanegan desde Bubblegum, las composiciones, registros de voz, son de lo mejor que han hecho estos dos en mucho tiempo, ademas se demuestra que el disco gusta y mucho, en cada una de sus actuaciones, ya que lo presentan de cabo a rabo sin que el publico pida Gospel plow o What jail is like... Lo unico en lo que puedo poner un pero, es en la produccion casera de Dulli, este trabajo en manos de un Drakoulias, O'Brien, o Goss por citar algunos hubiese ganado muchos enteros

Good night

Hey Ripple cómo vas??!!??

aquí de nuevo en el foro...habiendo enterrado a Erica Kane de momento para dejar de provocar equívocos.
A Barna irás fijo pero vas a hacer doblete con los gemelos???
e
Un saludo!

Sikander dixit.

Que bien tenerte de vuelta, mas de alguno se llevara un chasco cuando se entere que te has cargado a Erika.

A los gemelos Twinikos los veo en un principio, solo en Barna, si sale algun tema laboral por Madrid ese dia, voy de cabeza a la Joy.

Ok ya me conterás. Serás bienvenido si te pasas por la capital. Yo tengo pendiente el viaje a Barna...pero al economía, como en todos los periódicos dicen, va fatal.

Por cierto, echa un vistazo a esto:

http://vombiezomitblog.blogspot.com/2008/02/soulsavers-world-cafe-wxpn-studios.html

Ese "Revival" en directo!!!

Sikander dixit.

Pues nada eso se arregla acudiendo a cualquiera de los festivaluchos de la ciudad condal 8) 8) 8)

Para los que teniais entradas para bilbao, putadon leed esto:

The Gutter Twins to perform on Later With Jools Holland/Postpone Two Shows

The
Gutter Twins will be one of musical guests on Later With Jools Holland
during their LIVE broadcast April 29th on BBC2 at 10:00PM. The band
will share the stage with James, Mable John, Operator Please, Pentangle
and Melody Gardot. The full show will then air on Friday May 2nd at
11:35PM on BBC2 as well.

Due to this opportunity we will need to
reschedule our shows in Bilbao and Lisbon. We will be returning to
Europe later this summer so we hope to see you then.