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No había visto éste tópic
Disco el Drums and Wires.
Disco el Drums and Wires.
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CountryJoe escribió:No había visto éste tópic
Disco el Drums and Wires.
Mis preferidos más o menos por igual white music, black sea y drums and wires..me quedo con el sonido de los primeros discos. Aun gustándome (ni que decir tiene) otros de la banda..
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Lo vi ayer y está muy guay si.deniztek escribió:Cojonudo el documental "XTC: This Is Pop"
https://www.filmaffinity.com/es/film699756.html
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CountryJoe escribió:Lo vi ayer y está muy guay si.deniztek escribió:Cojonudo el documental "XTC: This Is Pop"
https://www.filmaffinity.com/es/film699756.html
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Mola mucho! Me gustaron sus razonamientos para todo.
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Un tío inteligente, divertido, inestable, cachondo..además de talentoso, claro.
Graciosas sus bromas o comentarios sobre los documentales de rock, siendo al mismo tiempo consciente de que está siendo parte de otro documental de rock..
Graciosas sus bromas o comentarios sobre los documentales de rock, siendo al mismo tiempo consciente de que está siendo parte de otro documental de rock..
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Todo un tapado el NONSUCH en la discografía de la banda..hoy me ha gustado más que nunca este disco.
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Si, y el Go2 que tampoco lo ha votado nadie, es un gran disco.deniztek escribió:Todo un tapado el NONSUCH en la discografía de la banda..hoy me ha gustado más que nunca este disco.
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Bueeenas...
A ver, de enta gente solo he catado el Skylarking y el siguiente. Ninguno me ha hecho mucha mella. Tienen buenos momentos y tal, pero no, antes me quedo con Pugwash, el hijo bastardo de Partridge. A veces me da por pensar en escuchar alguno de los anteriores, pero miedo me da encontrarme con ochenterismo varios y/o sonido cool wave duermeovejas. Recomendaciones?
A ver, de enta gente solo he catado el Skylarking y el siguiente. Ninguno me ha hecho mucha mella. Tienen buenos momentos y tal, pero no, antes me quedo con Pugwash, el hijo bastardo de Partridge. A veces me da por pensar en escuchar alguno de los anteriores, pero miedo me da encontrarme con ochenterismo varios y/o sonido cool wave duermeovejas. Recomendaciones?
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Prueba con el Drums and Wires O el Black Sea.uno cualquiera escribió:Bueeenas...
A ver, de enta gente solo he catado el Skylarking y el siguiente. Ninguno me ha hecho mucha mella. Tienen buenos momentos y tal, pero no, antes me quedo con Pugwash, el hijo bastardo de Partridge. A veces me da por pensar en escuchar alguno de los anteriores, pero miedo me da encontrarme con ochenterismo varios y/o sonido cool wave duermeovejas. Recomendaciones?
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CountryJoe escribió:Prueba con el Drums and Wires O el Black Sea.uno cualquiera escribió:Bueeenas...
A ver, de enta gente solo he catado el Skylarking y el siguiente. Ninguno me ha hecho mucha mella. Tienen buenos momentos y tal, pero no, antes me quedo con Pugwash, el hijo bastardo de Partridge. A veces me da por pensar en escuchar alguno de los anteriores, pero miedo me da encontrarme con ochenterismo varios y/o sonido cool wave duermeovejas. Recomendaciones?
Ok, a ver si recuerdo el percal este. De regalo os dejo la colaboración entre estos monstruos... bueno, me he pasao, tan feos, tan feos tampoco son.
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Además de una nueva edición en vinilo 200gr del Black Sea, para septiembre está anunciada la publicación de un nuevo EP con 4 temas compuestos entre Robyn Hitchcock y Andy Partridge: Planet England
Sale en 10" y en cd, de momento está sólo disponible el preorder en http://burningshed.com/ape, de donde saco el siguiente texto:
- abrir:
- "A veritable Clash of the Titans of English Pop music… a musical meeting of minds to rival King Kong Vs. Godzilla but, sadly, with no Ishirō Honda to chronicle an event of such magnitude and, with both participants being English, the actual meeting was less the cause of earthquakes and tsunamis, more a case of…
…Tea and a chat, followed by some – typically for both - fine pop song writing, recording, mixing, a celebratory glass of wine and a trip to a restaurant for a curry and a pint of beer… all traditions as English in their longevity as the day they arrived on these shores from somewhere else…
“Right now I weigh more than Andy on account of the cheese. He feeds me cheese when I go round there, which is comforting. I only really get in fights with myself, which I always lose”- Robyn
"Rather than these two big planets and their similar odd gravities repulsing each other, as might be anticipated. I can cheerfully tell you that it's been one rather beautiful crashing creative event. ...that I want to repeat. Feels like being in a group again." (no dinosaurs were harmed during the making of this EP). – Andy
“Andy and I are the same age and suffer from the same record collection, especially the B’s: Barrett, Beatles, Beefheart. He’s a Scorpio and I’m Pisces, so we’re the same astrological team as Richard Burton and Liz Taylor, except neither of us is Welsh, sadly.” - Robyn
English (and British popular music generally) has consistently proved capable of absorbing, refreshing, renewing and placing a distinctive twist on a melange of sounds and influences from almost anywhere in the world while managing to preserve, in many cases, a distinctly local, but not parochial, flavour.
"Robyn's fierce inventiveness is a joy to work with. Like bathing in the sparks from some surreal angle grinder." – Andy
“Andy is the only person that I can easily write songs with. They simply appear, as if we were at a seance. He’s perhaps more logical than me, but it’s not really a contest, is it? A lot of song-writing is solving a puzzle that you’ve set for yourself; I really enjoy going round to his place in Swindon and puzzling with him. I live just up the road, in Nashville...”
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tras el EP con Robyn Hitchcock, el 11/X llegará el siguiente volumen en 5.1 y esta vez le toca a los dukes of stratosphear
https://burningshed.com/store/ape/xtc-as-the-dukes-of-stratosphear_psurroundabout-ride_cd_blu-ray
Lo han vuelto a recopilar todo ahora bajo el nombre "Psurroundabout Ride"
También van a reeditar tanto el 25 Oclock como el Psonic Psunspot en vinilo de 200 gr., para los que les sobre el dinero
Sacado de la página de Burning shed:
"Psurroundabout Ride gathers all of the Dukes’ material on a CD/Blu-Ray set, with both of the band’s albums (plus 2 extra tracks) remixed in stereo and 5.1 surround by Steven Wilson (approved by Andy Partridge).
Produced by John Leckie (Swami Anand Nagara) and The Dukes.
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* Both albums + 2 extra tracks mixed in 5.1 surround by Steven Wilson on Blu-Ray (with a final song up-mixed to surround using the Penteo audio system)
* All 19 songs in their original mixes in hi-res stereo (Blu-Ray) (el EP + el LP + 3 temas extra, que probablemente serán "Open a can of human beans", "TIn toy Clockwork train" y "Black Jewelled Serpent of Sound". Para mí no aportan nada, no las escucho nunca, salvo a veces la de Open a can...)
* 18 songs appear in their new mixes in hi-res stereo (Blu-Ray)] (aquí espero que el que falte sea 1 de los extras ("Black Jewelled"?)
* Complete demos from both albums & instrumental versions of album songs also feature in hi-res stereo on the Blu-Ray (demos que en algunos casos eran "nuevas", las hicieron desde cero para la edición especial de hace unos años)
https://burningshed.com/store/ape/xtc-as-the-dukes-of-stratosphear_psurroundabout-ride_cd_blu-ray
Lo han vuelto a recopilar todo ahora bajo el nombre "Psurroundabout Ride"
También van a reeditar tanto el 25 Oclock como el Psonic Psunspot en vinilo de 200 gr., para los que les sobre el dinero
Sacado de la página de Burning shed:
"Psurroundabout Ride gathers all of the Dukes’ material on a CD/Blu-Ray set, with both of the band’s albums (plus 2 extra tracks) remixed in stereo and 5.1 surround by Steven Wilson (approved by Andy Partridge).
Produced by John Leckie (Swami Anand Nagara) and The Dukes.
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* Both albums + 2 extra tracks mixed in 5.1 surround by Steven Wilson on Blu-Ray (with a final song up-mixed to surround using the Penteo audio system)
* All 19 songs in their original mixes in hi-res stereo (Blu-Ray) (el EP + el LP + 3 temas extra, que probablemente serán "Open a can of human beans", "TIn toy Clockwork train" y "Black Jewelled Serpent of Sound". Para mí no aportan nada, no las escucho nunca, salvo a veces la de Open a can...)
* 18 songs appear in their new mixes in hi-res stereo (Blu-Ray)] (aquí espero que el que falte sea 1 de los extras ("Black Jewelled"?)
* Complete demos from both albums & instrumental versions of album songs also feature in hi-res stereo on the Blu-Ray (demos que en algunos casos eran "nuevas", las hicieron desde cero para la edición especial de hace unos años)
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hachimaki escribió:tras el EP con Robyn Hitchcock, el 11/X llegará el siguiente volumen en 5.1 y esta vez le toca a los dukes of stratosphear
https://burningshed.com/store/ape/xtc-as-the-dukes-of-stratosphear_psurroundabout-ride_cd_blu-ray
Lo han vuelto a recopilar todo ahora bajo el nombre "Psurroundabout Ride"
También van a reeditar tanto el 25 Oclock como el Psonic Psunspot en vinilo de 200 gr., para los que les sobre el dinero
Sacado de la página de Burning shed:
"Psurroundabout Ride gathers all of the Dukes’ material on a CD/Blu-Ray set, with both of the band’s albums (plus 2 extra tracks) remixed in stereo and 5.1 surround by Steven Wilson (approved by Andy Partridge).
Produced by John Leckie (Swami Anand Nagara) and The Dukes.
---------
* Both albums + 2 extra tracks mixed in 5.1 surround by Steven Wilson on Blu-Ray (with a final song up-mixed to surround using the Penteo audio system)
* All 19 songs in their original mixes in hi-res stereo (Blu-Ray) (el EP + el LP + 3 temas extra, que probablemente serán "Open a can of human beans", "TIn toy Clockwork train" y "Black Jewelled Serpent of Sound". Para mí no aportan nada, no las escucho nunca, salvo a veces la de Open a can...)
* 18 songs appear in their new mixes in hi-res stereo (Blu-Ray)] (aquí espero que el que falte sea 1 de los extras ("Black Jewelled"?)
* Complete demos from both albums & instrumental versions of album songs also feature in hi-res stereo on the Blu-Ray (demos que en algunos casos eran "nuevas", las hicieron desde cero para la edición especial de hace unos años)
Buenísimo, gracias por el aviso!
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Repasando un poco toda la mandanga que se ha ido publicando de XTC y derivados, molaría una reedición de estas dos cosas, a poder ser a un precio razonable, y no a precio de tinta de impresora.
https://www.discogs.com/XTC-As-The-Dukes-Of-Stratosphear-The-Complete-And-Utter-Dukes/release/4214337
https://www.discogs.com/Andy-Partridge-The-Official-Andy-Partridge-Fuzzy-Warbles-Collectors-Album/release/1906734
https://www.discogs.com/XTC-As-The-Dukes-Of-Stratosphear-The-Complete-And-Utter-Dukes/release/4214337
https://www.discogs.com/Andy-Partridge-The-Official-Andy-Partridge-Fuzzy-Warbles-Collectors-Album/release/1906734
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Recibido y escuchado el EP, las 2 primeras no me han gustado demasiado... pero la que da título al EP Planet England está bastante bien, y ya sólo por Got My merece la pena comprarlo. Es la más Apple Venus del lote, más folkie y con un Partridge en primer plano -en el resto de temas es Hitchcock quien predomina, al menos en lo vocal.
En resumen merece la pena, pero creo que estaría mucho mejor si lo hubieran grabado con banda, por mucho curro que se haya metido AP con las bases - creo que no hay batería de verdad, pero creo que en este sentido suena mejor que el Love from London de Hitchcock, por si sirve de referencia.
Ya se puede encontrar en Youtube...
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Andy Partridge regala a través de burningshed.com una demo del disco bubblegum que no llegó a ver la luz: "Cavegirl"
En el zip la canción está tanto en mp3 como en aif (hd 96Hz 32b)
https://burningshed.com/store/ape/artists-ape/andy-partridge/andy-partridge_cavegirl_free-download
" Cavegirl is Andy Partridge's demo for a song from the aborted bubblegum sampler album, 12 The Flavors Of Hercules, a release that would have claimed to be a 'best of' the mythical American bubblegum label, Hercules. The finished recording would have been attributed to the non existent group The Candy Coat Hook. The 11 other bands/artists would have all had different names."
Creo que es inédita, que yo recuerde no estaba en los Fuzzy Warbles.
En el zip la canción está tanto en mp3 como en aif (hd 96Hz 32b)
https://burningshed.com/store/ape/artists-ape/andy-partridge/andy-partridge_cavegirl_free-download
" Cavegirl is Andy Partridge's demo for a song from the aborted bubblegum sampler album, 12 The Flavors Of Hercules, a release that would have claimed to be a 'best of' the mythical American bubblegum label, Hercules. The finished recording would have been attributed to the non existent group The Candy Coat Hook. The 11 other bands/artists would have all had different names."
Creo que es inédita, que yo recuerde no estaba en los Fuzzy Warbles.
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Esto no tiene relación directa con la banda pero como he puesto varias veces aquí enlaces directos a burningshed, la última hace sólo unos días, lo pongo aquí.
Hace unos días los de Burningshed avisaron por email de que posiblemente les han hackeado la web. No guardan información de tarjetas y/o paypal así que en ese aspecto no hay peligro, pero asusta que el hackeo fuese en diciembre de 2018! y no se hayan dado cuenta hasta ahora...
Hace unos días los de Burningshed avisaron por email de que posiblemente les han hackeado la web. No guardan información de tarjetas y/o paypal así que en ese aspecto no hay peligro, pero asusta que el hackeo fuese en diciembre de 2018! y no se hayan dado cuenta hasta ahora...
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En septiembre reeditan en vinilo el "Oranges & Lemons" de 1989, con la portada retocada y en gatefold.
"A 2020 double 200g vinyl reissue of XTC's masterpiece from 1989.
Oranges And Lemons is the eighth in a series of XTC Classics to be issued on a 200 gram vinyl edition.
Mastered by Jason Mitchell at Loud Mastering with input from Andy Partridge and fully approved by XTC.
This is one of the most requested vinyl reissues in the XTC catalogues as it was only available for a short period towards the end of the first vinyl era.
The sleeve has been re-worked to present the front colour image in all its psychedelic glory - and expanded to a gatefold to accommodate both the weight of the vinyl & the inclusion of song lyrics.
All copies sold through Burning Shed come with an exclusive postcard (while stocks last)."
https://burningshed.com/store/ape/xtc_oranges-and-lemons_double-vinyl
"A 2020 double 200g vinyl reissue of XTC's masterpiece from 1989.
Oranges And Lemons is the eighth in a series of XTC Classics to be issued on a 200 gram vinyl edition.
Mastered by Jason Mitchell at Loud Mastering with input from Andy Partridge and fully approved by XTC.
This is one of the most requested vinyl reissues in the XTC catalogues as it was only available for a short period towards the end of the first vinyl era.
The sleeve has been re-worked to present the front colour image in all its psychedelic glory - and expanded to a gatefold to accommodate both the weight of the vinyl & the inclusion of song lyrics.
All copies sold through Burning Shed come with an exclusive postcard (while stocks last)."
https://burningshed.com/store/ape/xtc_oranges-and-lemons_double-vinyl
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En Octubre saldrá a la venta de nuevo en vinilo (2LP y gatefold) Nonsuch
https://burningshed.com/artists-ape/xtc/xtc_nonsuch_double-vinyl
Nonsuch is the ninth in a series of XTC classics to be issued on 200g vinyl.
The album has been mastered by Jason Mitchell at Loud Mastering with input from Andy Partridge and is fully approved by XTC.
One of XTC's most sophisticated and mature works, 1992's Nonsuch was the last of the band's albums for Virgin Records (and was followed by a decade of silence). The album was only on vinyl for a short period towards the end of the first vinyl era and was, as a result, never available as a decent quality pressing. It was also poorly presented in a single sleeve.
On this 2020 version, the sleeve has been restored to its original quality with the gold coloured overlay - and expanded to a gatefold to accommodate both the weight of the vinyl and the inclusion of song lyrics.
https://burningshed.com/artists-ape/xtc/xtc_nonsuch_double-vinyl
Nonsuch is the ninth in a series of XTC classics to be issued on 200g vinyl.
The album has been mastered by Jason Mitchell at Loud Mastering with input from Andy Partridge and is fully approved by XTC.
One of XTC's most sophisticated and mature works, 1992's Nonsuch was the last of the band's albums for Virgin Records (and was followed by a decade of silence). The album was only on vinyl for a short period towards the end of the first vinyl era and was, as a result, never available as a decent quality pressing. It was also poorly presented in a single sleeve.
On this 2020 version, the sleeve has been restored to its original quality with the gold coloured overlay - and expanded to a gatefold to accommodate both the weight of the vinyl and the inclusion of song lyrics.
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Por fin salen a la venta nuevas canciones de Andy Partridge. Son 4 temas compuestos para otra gente que fueron rechazados
https://burningshed.com/store/ape/andy-partridge_my-failed-songwriting-career_vinyl
Colin Moulding también va a sacar un EP con un par de temas nuevos y una demo "exploratoria"
https://burningshed.com/colin-moulding_the-hardest-battle_cd
https://burningshed.com/store/ape/andy-partridge_my-failed-songwriting-career_vinyl
- info burning shed:
- My Failed Songwriting Career - Volume 1 presents a fascinating selection of songs resulting from Andy Partridge’s post XTC period as a songwriter for hire writing for other artists.
‘Four brothers and sisters, happily reunited and presented as a family group aural snapshot for your entertainment and delight.’ - Andy Partridge
12" vinyl EP / cd
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Twang, Hmmm, click, thunk.
When XTC finally downed guitars after the recording and release of “Wasp Star”, their last album to date, one of Andy’s ideas about what to do next, was to become a songwriter in the traditional sense, writing songs for others…
It was something he had been asked to do throughout the XTC years, but never had the time.
Songs were written. Songs were sent. Sometimes speculatively, often specifically requested, many tailor-made for an artist's requirements, but then choppy waters could still lay ahead. Even where everyone seemed to think that newly written song A would be wonderful if recorded by singer B, whose manager C had initiated the request via music publisher D for album E on record label F…
Well, you begin to see the potential problems of such an approach – almost a quarter of the way through the alphabet and not a note recorded beyond Andy's original demo. That’s without detailing the sort of horrendous politics that makes a fresh batch of alphabet spaghetti of any of the above as they interact.
Still, songs are like children. A songwriter gives birth to them, feeds them, watches them grow before sending them out into the world. So it’s unfair to abandon them as orphans just because their first experience outdoors might be a traumatic one of being cold shouldered.
As a loving parent, Andy brought them all back together, re-Andy-fied them and buffed them up in his home studio, et voila! Here is the first selection of song siblings that resulted from all of this work, four brothers and sisters, happily reunited and presented as a family group aural snapshot for your entertainment and delight.
It was something he had been asked to do throughout the XTC years, but never had the time.
Colin Moulding también va a sacar un EP con un par de temas nuevos y una demo "exploratoria"
https://burningshed.com/colin-moulding_the-hardest-battle_cd
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