EL TOPIC DE MICHAEL JORDAN

judas escribió:pues yo era del 21 de los atlanta...........

Joseba escribió:Siempre fui de Chicago Bulls. Únicamente por este hombre.

guede escribió:Recordando el mate desde la linea de tiro libre que siempre ha parecido de los más fáciles que hizo, pues todavía no he visto a nadie que lo haya hecho con esa solvencia y con rectificado incluido. Sin ir más lejos el otro dia en el concurso de mates, Ibaka pese a su potencia no llegó a matar bien la bola. El tío era un fenómeno físicamente. Se podría haber dedicado a salto de longitud, de altura, 100 m, futol americano...

guede escribió:Recordando el mate desde la linea de tiro libre que siempre ha parecido de los más fáciles que hizo, pues todavía no he visto a nadie que lo haya hecho con esa solvencia y con rectificado incluido. Sin ir más lejos el otro dia en el concurso de mates, Ibaka pese a su potencia no llegó a matar bien la bola. El tío era un fenómeno físicamente. Se podría haber dedicado a salto de longitud, de altura, 100 m, futol americano...

akhenaten666 escribió:

guede escribió:Recordando el mate desde la linea de tiro libre que siempre ha parecido de los más fáciles que hizo, pues todavía no he visto a nadie que lo haya hecho con esa solvencia y con rectificado incluido. Sin ir más lejos el otro dia en el concurso de mates, Ibaka pese a su potencia no llegó a matar bien la bola. El tío era un fenómeno físicamente. Se podría haber dedicado a salto de longitud, de altura, 100 m, futol americano...

guede escribió:Recordando el mate desde la linea de tiro libre que siempre ha parecido de los más fáciles que hizo, pues todavía no he visto a nadie que lo haya hecho con esa solvencia y con rectificado incluido. Sin ir más lejos el otro dia en el concurso de mates, Ibaka pese a su potencia no llegó a matar bien la bola. El tío era un fenómeno físicamente. Se podría haber dedicado a salto de longitud, de altura, 100 m, futol americano...

guede escribió:Recordando el mate desde la linea de tiro libre que siempre ha parecido de los más fáciles que hizo, pues todavía no he visto a nadie que lo haya hecho con esa solvencia y con rectificado incluido. Sin ir más lejos el otro dia en el concurso de mates, Ibaka pese a su potencia no llegó a matar bien la bola. El tío era un fenómeno físicamente. Se podría haber dedicado a salto de longitud, de altura, 100 m, futol americano...

"We're beating a lot of poor teams. So what? We won a lot of games last year, too. Will Horace and Bill still be playing at this level in the playoffs...Can Pip keep it up?"

"I hate being out there with those garbagemen. They don't get you the ball."

"They've got no idea what it's all about. The white guys, they work hard, but they don't have the talent. And the rest of them? Who knows what to expect? They're not good for much of anything."

"I know what's gonna happen. We'll wait until the last minute and then they'll say something like they couldn't get a deal done because of the cap or somebody pulled out at the last minute. It happens here all the time. I don't know why I'm surprised every year."

"He can't do anything with the ball. Don't give it to him." - Michael yelling at Paxson who passed the ball to Perdue

"You ever hear of a guy, six-eleven maybe and two hundred sixty pounds, a guy big and fat like that and he can't get but two rebounds, if that many, running all over the damn court and he gets two rebounds? Big guy like that and he gets one rebound. Can't even stick his **** into people and get more than that...Big, fat, fat guy. One rebound in three games. Power forward. Maybe they should call it powerless forward." - Michael ripping Stacey King a new one

"He was scared in there and panicking. He just lost it when Stockton scored." - Michael on B.J. Armstrong's mental fragility

I'll let them stand up and take responsibility for themselves."

"We have to do some things. We need to make some changes."

"...I call them 'the Looney Tunes.' Physically, they were the best. Mentally, they weren't even close."

"He's scared. He's got no heart...Nobody told me that. If I had spoken up, he wouldn't have been here."

"I know I can recognize what to do, but I'm not sure they can."

"It's a hell of a lot easier to make Earl Monroe look good than it is Brad Sellers."

"I hope there's a jumpshot in there." - Michael to Stacey King who was walking into the locker room with a box

"They don't need a ticket to watch you sitting on the bench. They can go to your house for that." - Michael to Charles Davis who was sorting through his tickets for his family and friends

"Give me the ******* ball." - Michael to Doug Collins who drew up a play for Dave Corzine

"I hate when I have to read that in the papers the next day, that I couldn't do something. It wasn't my fault."

"You're an idiot. You've screwed up every play we ever ran. You're too stupid to even remember the plays. We ought to get rid of you." - Michael to Horace Grant

"If you [pass the ball to Bill Cartwright], you'll never get the ball from me."

"We're not winning because of talent. We're just beating bad teams."

"Headache tonight, Scottie?" - Michael asks Scottie, while showing him his 2-for-16 line

"It's probably a twelve-day. He needs two days to wake up." - Michael on a ten-day contract teammate

"Five more years and I'm out of here. I'm marking these days on a calendar, like I'm in jail. I'm tired of being used by this organization, by the league, by the writers, by everyone."

"They're not interested in winning. They just want to sell tickets, which they can do because of me. They won't make any deals to make us better. And this Kukoc thing. I hate that. They're spending all their time chasing this guy."

"If I were a general manager, we'd be a better team."


"Will Vanderbilt. He doesn't deserve to be named after a Big Ten school." - Michael on Will Perdue

"I want to prove the critics wrong...I want to see some serious moves from management, which I really haven't seen that much of yet, and I want to see more serious attitudes from my teammates this year when it comes to the playoffs. In the past, it's been more or less a joking thing, sort of a 'Well, we're here, so let's have a good time.'"

"I'm sure everything will be fine if we win, but if we start losing, I'm shooting."

"I know what I would do if I were coach. I'd determine our strengths and weaknesses and utilize them. And it's pretty clear what our strength is."

"Your boy doesn't want to play. I'm tired of bailing his ass out." - Michael yelling at Jim Cleamons about Dennis Hopson

"I don't know about trading a 24 year-old guy for a 34 year-old guy." - Michael questioning the Oakley trade

"He's causing me too many turnovers." - Michael on Cartwright's inability to catch

"Why the hell don't you ever set a pick like that in a game?" - Michael yelling at Perdue after also hitting Perdue upside his head (led to the institution of the private curtain for practices)

akhenaten666 escribió:

guede escribió:Recordando el mate desde la linea de tiro libre que siempre ha parecido de los más fáciles que hizo, pues todavía no he visto a nadie que lo haya hecho con esa solvencia y con rectificado incluido. Sin ir más lejos el otro dia en el concurso de mates, Ibaka pese a su potencia no llegó a matar bien la bola. El tío era un fenómeno físicamente. Se podría haber dedicado a salto de longitud, de altura, 100 m, futol americano...

metió el pie entero con lo cual hay 4 minimo que lo han hecho mejor que él en concursos oficiales,lo del rectificado no es nada a su favor,eso se hace para que el cuerpo se estabilice,yo lo he hecho en una canasta de 2,80 y si no hacía el rectificado me comía la base de la canasta.....

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akhenaten666 escribió:

guede escribió:Recordando el mate desde la linea de tiro libre que siempre ha parecido de los más fáciles que hizo, pues todavía no he visto a nadie que lo haya hecho con esa solvencia y con rectificado incluido. Sin ir más lejos el otro dia en el concurso de mates, Ibaka pese a su potencia no llegó a matar bien la bola. El tío era un fenómeno físicamente. Se podría haber dedicado a salto de longitud, de altura, 100 m, futol americano...

metió el pie entero con lo cual hay 4 minimo que lo han hecho mejor que él en concursos oficiales,lo del rectificado no es nada a su favor,eso se hace para que el cuerpo se estabilice,yo lo he hecho en una canasta de 2,80 y si no hacía el rectificado me comía la base de la canasta.....

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stale escribió:Ya veremos dentro de 10 años cuando se retire Vujacic.

stale escribió:Citas de Jordan sobre sus compañeros. Algunas delirantes.

"We're beating a lot of poor teams. So what? We won a lot of games last year, too. Will Horace and Bill still be playing at this level in the playoffs...Can Pip keep it up?"

"I hate being out there with those garbagemen. They don't get you the ball."

"They've got no idea what it's all about. The white guys, they work hard, but they don't have the talent. And the rest of them? Who knows what to expect? They're not good for much of anything."

"I know what's gonna happen. We'll wait until the last minute and then they'll say something like they couldn't get a deal done because of the cap or somebody pulled out at the last minute. It happens here all the time. I don't know why I'm surprised every year."

"He can't do anything with the ball. Don't give it to him." - Michael yelling at Paxson who passed the ball to Perdue

"You ever hear of a guy, six-eleven maybe and two hundred sixty pounds, a guy big and fat like that and he can't get but two rebounds, if that many, running all over the damn court and he gets two rebounds? Big guy like that and he gets one rebound. Can't even stick his **** into people and get more than that...Big, fat, fat guy. One rebound in three games. Power forward. Maybe they should call it powerless forward." - Michael ripping Stacey King a new one

"He was scared in there and panicking. He just lost it when Stockton scored." - Michael on B.J. Armstrong's mental fragility

I'll let them stand up and take responsibility for themselves."

"We have to do some things. We need to make some changes."

"...I call them 'the Looney Tunes.' Physically, they were the best. Mentally, they weren't even close."

"He's scared. He's got no heart...Nobody told me that. If I had spoken up, he wouldn't have been here."

"I know I can recognize what to do, but I'm not sure they can."

"It's a hell of a lot easier to make Earl Monroe look good than it is Brad Sellers."

"I hope there's a jumpshot in there." - Michael to Stacey King who was walking into the locker room with a box

"They don't need a ticket to watch you sitting on the bench. They can go to your house for that." - Michael to Charles Davis who was sorting through his tickets for his family and friends

"Give me the ******* ball." - Michael to Doug Collins who drew up a play for Dave Corzine

"I hate when I have to read that in the papers the next day, that I couldn't do something. It wasn't my fault."

"You're an idiot. You've screwed up every play we ever ran. You're too stupid to even remember the plays. We ought to get rid of you." - Michael to Horace Grant

"If you [pass the ball to Bill Cartwright], you'll never get the ball from me."

"We're not winning because of talent. We're just beating bad teams."

"Headache tonight, Scottie?" - Michael asks Scottie, while showing him his 2-for-16 line

"It's probably a twelve-day. He needs two days to wake up." - Michael on a ten-day contract teammate

"Five more years and I'm out of here. I'm marking these days on a calendar, like I'm in jail. I'm tired of being used by this organization, by the league, by the writers, by everyone."

"They're not interested in winning. They just want to sell tickets, which they can do because of me. They won't make any deals to make us better. And this Kukoc thing. I hate that. They're spending all their time chasing this guy."

"If I were a general manager, we'd be a better team."


"Will Vanderbilt. He doesn't deserve to be named after a Big Ten school." - Michael on Will Perdue

"I want to prove the critics wrong...I want to see some serious moves from management, which I really haven't seen that much of yet, and I want to see more serious attitudes from my teammates this year when it comes to the playoffs. In the past, it's been more or less a joking thing, sort of a 'Well, we're here, so let's have a good time.'"

"I'm sure everything will be fine if we win, but if we start losing, I'm shooting."

"I know what I would do if I were coach. I'd determine our strengths and weaknesses and utilize them. And it's pretty clear what our strength is."

"Your boy doesn't want to play. I'm tired of bailing his ass out." - Michael yelling at Jim Cleamons about Dennis Hopson

"I don't know about trading a 24 year-old guy for a 34 year-old guy." - Michael questioning the Oakley trade

"He's causing me too many turnovers." - Michael on Cartwright's inability to catch

"Why the hell don't you ever set a pick like that in a game?" - Michael yelling at Perdue after also hitting Perdue upside his head (led to the institution of the private curtain for practices)

Me estoy partiendo con la que le soltó a Stacey King.

akhenaten666 escribió:

stale escribió:Citas de Jordan sobre sus compañeros. Algunas delirantes.

"We're beating a lot of poor teams. So what? We won a lot of games last year, too. Will Horace and Bill still be playing at this level in the playoffs...Can Pip keep it up?"

"I hate being out there with those garbagemen. They don't get you the ball."

"They've got no idea what it's all about. The white guys, they work hard, but they don't have the talent. And the rest of them? Who knows what to expect? They're not good for much of anything."

"I know what's gonna happen. We'll wait until the last minute and then they'll say something like they couldn't get a deal done because of the cap or somebody pulled out at the last minute. It happens here all the time. I don't know why I'm surprised every year."

"He can't do anything with the ball. Don't give it to him." - Michael yelling at Paxson who passed the ball to Perdue

"You ever hear of a guy, six-eleven maybe and two hundred sixty pounds, a guy big and fat like that and he can't get but two rebounds, if that many, running all over the damn court and he gets two rebounds? Big guy like that and he gets one rebound. Can't even stick his **** into people and get more than that...Big, fat, fat guy. One rebound in three games. Power forward. Maybe they should call it powerless forward." - Michael ripping Stacey King a new one

"He was scared in there and panicking. He just lost it when Stockton scored." - Michael on B.J. Armstrong's mental fragility

I'll let them stand up and take responsibility for themselves."

"We have to do some things. We need to make some changes."

"...I call them 'the Looney Tunes.' Physically, they were the best. Mentally, they weren't even close."

"He's scared. He's got no heart...Nobody told me that. If I had spoken up, he wouldn't have been here."

"I know I can recognize what to do, but I'm not sure they can."

"It's a hell of a lot easier to make Earl Monroe look good than it is Brad Sellers."

"I hope there's a jumpshot in there." - Michael to Stacey King who was walking into the locker room with a box

"They don't need a ticket to watch you sitting on the bench. They can go to your house for that." - Michael to Charles Davis who was sorting through his tickets for his family and friends

"Give me the ******* ball." - Michael to Doug Collins who drew up a play for Dave Corzine

"I hate when I have to read that in the papers the next day, that I couldn't do something. It wasn't my fault."

"You're an idiot. You've screwed up every play we ever ran. You're too stupid to even remember the plays. We ought to get rid of you." - Michael to Horace Grant

"If you [pass the ball to Bill Cartwright], you'll never get the ball from me."

"We're not winning because of talent. We're just beating bad teams."

"Headache tonight, Scottie?" - Michael asks Scottie, while showing him his 2-for-16 line

"It's probably a twelve-day. He needs two days to wake up." - Michael on a ten-day contract teammate

"Five more years and I'm out of here. I'm marking these days on a calendar, like I'm in jail. I'm tired of being used by this organization, by the league, by the writers, by everyone."

"They're not interested in winning. They just want to sell tickets, which they can do because of me. They won't make any deals to make us better. And this Kukoc thing. I hate that. They're spending all their time chasing this guy."

"If I were a general manager, we'd be a better team."


"Will Vanderbilt. He doesn't deserve to be named after a Big Ten school." - Michael on Will Perdue

"I want to prove the critics wrong...I want to see some serious moves from management, which I really haven't seen that much of yet, and I want to see more serious attitudes from my teammates this year when it comes to the playoffs. In the past, it's been more or less a joking thing, sort of a 'Well, we're here, so let's have a good time.'"

"I'm sure everything will be fine if we win, but if we start losing, I'm shooting."

"I know what I would do if I were coach. I'd determine our strengths and weaknesses and utilize them. And it's pretty clear what our strength is."

"Your boy doesn't want to play. I'm tired of bailing his ass out." - Michael yelling at Jim Cleamons about Dennis Hopson

"I don't know about trading a 24 year-old guy for a 34 year-old guy." - Michael questioning the Oakley trade

"He's causing me too many turnovers." - Michael on Cartwright's inability to catch

"Why the hell don't you ever set a pick like that in a game?" - Michael yelling at Perdue after also hitting Perdue upside his head (led to the institution of the private curtain for practices)

Me estoy partiendo con la que le soltó a Stacey King.

racista,mal compañero,irrespetuoso con quienes están por encima de él,en definitiva un payaso,todo lo que hace que ahora los jugadores vayan de equipo a equipo sin sentir su franquicia ni respetar a sus entrenadores,ya no quedan negros como los de los 80 que la inteligencia estaba por encima de lo demás

lo mejor de todo es que se cree que metía 30 puntos por partido porque tenía de compañeros a Worthy,Cooper,Thompson,Wilkes,Jabbar,Woolridge,Scott,Nixon,Drew,Green,McAdoo,Haywood....    

Eric Sachs escribió:era , es y será un gilipollas-

Y para mi nunca será el mejor  ( ni habrá  un  "mejor")  por que toda  esa mierda es relativa.

es un candidato mas  como  magic, o wilt, u oscar,  o Larry, o  lebron, o  Duncan, o kobe, o kareem,  o Russell .

Yo me quedo con magic.

y  nunca hubiera conseguido ese  "unánime  reconocimiento"  como   " el mejor"  si no hubiera tenida  la mas  grande  maquinaria de publicidad  de todos los tiempos  de su lado,  y al  vendido de stern  facilitándole  el camino  paso a paso,  falta ofensiva  sobre  Bryon   tras  falta ofensiva  sobre ehlo .

me da asco.

SIXX´N SEX escribió:Por mas que quieran buscarle sucesores en jugadores actuales este era único e irrepetible. Le tuve mucha rabia durante años (era fan de los Bad Boys) pero no hay duda que es el nº1.

Joseba escribió:Ya era el mejor antes de ganar su primer título con los Bulls, y todo el mundo lo decía.

No jodamos.

RickMahorn escribió:

Joseba escribió:Ya era el mejor antes de ganar su primer título con los Bulls, y todo el mundo lo decía.

No jodamos.

No estoy de acuerdo. Necesitó ser una amenaza desde el exterior para ser quien llegó a ser, y pese a ser una fuerza de la naturaleza desde el principio, su juego fue madurando con los años. Yo le tenía, y le tengo, bastante asco, los míos eran los Pistons y nunca me gustaron los Bulls, pero hay cosas que no se pueden negar. Alguien recuerda a Jordan fallando un último tiro para ganar el partido? Que pasaría alguna vez, pero nos hemos cansado de verle decidir partidos cuando todo el mundo sabía en qué manos iba a caer el balón. El mejor, sin duda.

Joseba escribió:

RickMahorn escribió:

Joseba escribió:Ya era el mejor antes de ganar su primer título con los Bulls, y todo el mundo lo decía.

No jodamos.

No estoy de acuerdo. Necesitó ser una amenaza desde el exterior para ser quien llegó a ser, y pese a ser una fuerza de la naturaleza desde el principio, su juego fue madurando con los años. Yo le tenía, y le tengo, bastante asco, los míos eran los Pistons y nunca me gustaron los Bulls, pero hay cosas que no se pueden negar. Alguien recuerda a Jordan fallando un último tiro para ganar el partido? Que pasaría alguna vez, pero nos hemos cansado de verle decidir partidos cuando todo el mundo sabía en qué manos iba a caer el balón. El mejor, sin duda.

¿Qué fue a mejor? Claro.

¿Qué ya se hablaba de él en los medios como mejor jugador, aun antes de ganar el primer título? También, y lo recuerdo perfectamente.

RickMahorn escribió:

Joseba escribió:Ya era el mejor antes de ganar su primer título con los Bulls, y todo el mundo lo decía.

No jodamos.

No estoy de acuerdo. Necesitó ser una amenaza desde el exterior para ser quien llegó a ser, y pese a ser una fuerza de la naturaleza desde el principio, su juego fue madurando con los años. Yo le tenía, y le tengo, bastante asco, los míos eran los Pistons y nunca me gustaron los Bulls, pero hay cosas que no se pueden negar. Alguien recuerda a Jordan fallando un último tiro para ganar el partido? Que pasaría alguna vez, pero nos hemos cansado de verle decidir partidos cuando todo el mundo sabía en qué manos iba a caer el balón. El mejor, sin duda.

keith_caputo escribió:Hay q reconocer q se lo tiene muy creido. Dice ser el mejor jugador de la historia (probablemente lo haya sido..... pero no se debe decir tan categoricamente) y dicer ser mejor q Kobe o Lebron. Un poco de prudencia no le vendria mal

keith_caputo escribió:aqui Jordan recibiendo el Basketball Hall Of Game en uno de los peores discursos y ha sido ya muy comentado. Jordan empieza llorando y dando las gracias pero poco a poco empieza con el rollo de q es el mejor, de q incluso podria volver a dia de hoy y dar alguna q otra leccion a unos cuantos jugadores e incluso recuerda los nombres de entrenadores o gente q no creyo en el en su dia. Me parece q no es el momento xa ese discurso. Deberia ser un poco mas humilde, recibir el premio, dar las gracias y no estar mas de la mitad del discurso diciendo q es un ganador, q es mejor q nadie...... . Es q incluso dice q sus hijos estan en una posicion dificil x ser padre de quien es y q no le gustaria estar en la situacion de sus hijos   

Eric Sachs escribió:

keith_caputo escribió:aqui Jordan recibiendo el Basketball Hall Of Game en uno de los peores discursos y ha sido ya muy comentado. Jordan empieza llorando y dando las gracias pero poco a poco empieza con el rollo de q es el mejor, de q incluso podria volver a dia de hoy y dar alguna q otra leccion a unos cuantos jugadores e incluso recuerda los nombres de entrenadores o gente q no creyo en el en su dia. Me parece q no es el momento xa ese discurso. Deberia ser un poco mas humilde, recibir el premio, dar las gracias y no estar mas de la mitad del discurso diciendo q es un ganador, q es mejor q nadie...... . Es q incluso dice q sus hijos estan en una posicion dificil x ser padre de quien es y q no le gustaria estar en la situacion de sus hijos   

es uno de los deportistas mas asquerosos de todos los tiempos  indudablemente.

Eric Sachs escribió:


A la mierda con el calvo asqueroso este.

ah, una mas.

sabeis  por  que se  " retiro"?  en el 93

por una asunto  de apuestas ilegales  dicen los mejor pensados  y de  DOPAJE   según lso mal pensados,   stern  no podía permitirese el escandalo y le recomendó  lo de  la  "retirada".

otro mito:   hubiera ganado 8 anllos seguidos.

MIS COJONES    , FUERON DERROTADOS Y HUMILLADOS  en los playoffs  del  95  CON JORDAN.

ah si,   mirad  cuanto bajo el record de temporada regular  de los bulls  de la  92-93  a la 93-94        tuvieron que ROBARLES  en la segunda ronda  contra los  Knicks  por que si no, eran CAPACES DE GANAR  sin jordan  y se les hubiera jodido el chiringito mitico de los helados que habían montado.


Jordan   grandísimo jugador  de lo mejor de lo mejor  que ha habido?   =  verdad como un templo

Jordan como   inalcanzable mejor de la historia?  =  Fraude.



Todo ese  "halo"  sobre  el  , es impostado  a base de dolars en publicidad.