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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por Harvey Dent Jue Abr 12 2018, 14:31
Por cierto radiorag, que paso con las "Rats"? (a los que va a ir dedicada la temática del disco fijo)
Que fue de Omega y el Italiano y los ex-Ghouls demandantes? Reactivaron Magna Cartel pero ni giran ni nada no?
Que fue de Omega y el Italiano y los ex-Ghouls demandantes? Reactivaron Magna Cartel pero ni giran ni nada no?
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por radiorag Jue Abr 12 2018, 15:02
Harvey Dent escribió:Por cierto radiorag, que paso con las "Rats"? (a los que va a ir dedicada la temática del disco fijo)
Que fue de Omega y el Italiano y los ex-Ghouls demandantes? Reactivaron Magna Cartel pero ni giran ni nada no?
El juicio sigue su curso. Hace 10 días han presentado las últimas alegaciones al juez.
- Spoiler:
- 3 Reason for declaratory judgement
3.1 The issue of the plaintiffs and TF conduct the above operations for the '' Ghost 'in a legal partnership, in which they all are partners, is disputed. The question of TF has handled the management of the legal partnership's business is equally contentious.
3.2 Uncertainty because the plaintiffs have not received the share of profit they are entitled under the partnership agreement. How much profit each of the plaintiffs is entitled cannot be estimated without TF presenting accounts to the plaintiffs according to the plaintiffs' motion under 1.2 (i).
4 Facts
4.1 Background
The time prior 2010
4.1.1 All persons involved in the lawsuit, as well as other persons that have been members of Ghost, come from the same musical circles and some of the members have also played together in several bands through the years. For example, TF played in the band "MCC" with SS and MP (both members of Ghost) approx. 2016-2010. SS, MP and TF had before that, played together in the band "Subvision".
4.1.2 SS and MP also played together in 1990-2014 in the band "Roswell". Another member og Roswell was Claudio Marino. Claudio Marino created a large part of the graphical design used by Ghost at the beginning of the band's career. Pelle Hällje, who created the persona "Papa Emeritus" - who Ghost based their entire image on, was also a person in these musical circles.
4.1.3 The first time TF mentioned the project "Ghost" to SS was in 2009. TF told SS that he had tried to record some songs with a friend from Stockholm, but according to TF the project was to be considered a hobby project. At the same time, TF had brought his old band "Repugnant" back to life and his plan was to start up Repugnant again with new band members.
2010
4.1.4 In the spring of 2010 SS and TF recorded the songs Ritual, Elizabeth, Death Knell and Prime Mover together. The recordings were made in SS's studio. TF had composed the songs and written the lyrics, but SS was in charge of the recording process, did the production, programmed all drums and, together with, did all the arrangements. The recordings were made available under the name of '' Ghost 'web service MySpace. One of the recordings, Elizabeth, was also released as a single in June 2010 on the German label Iron Pegasus Records.
4.1.5 In the spring of 2010 the album Opus Eponymous was also recorded. The recording of Opus eponymous was (predominantly) done in SS's studio and Gustaf Lindström, SS and TF acted as musicians, singers and producers. Ludvig Kernberg also participated as a drummer and hired studio musicians. GL had previously been involved in the project (even though he wasn't a part of the recording of demos done by TF and SS). SS also acted on the album as acting artist since he, among other things, programmed keyboards and acted as producer of the recording. As producer SS took, among other things, part of the decisions of the sound of drums, guitars, bass and keyboards, as well as adjusted and arranged riffs, melodies, rhythms and fills.
4.1.6 In May 2010, an agreement was signed with the record label Rise Above Records regarding, among other things release of the album Opus Eponymous. TF signed the contract for the music group's behalf.
4.1.7 On 23 October 2010, the bands first concert under the name of '' Ghost 'was at the Hammer Of Doom festival in Wiirzburg, Germany. Before the concert, MP and AH had joined '' Ghost '. AH had been asked by SS if he wanted to join '' Ghost '.
4.1.8 The concert on October 23, 2010, and other gigs in 2010 were booked by the partners themselves through contacts. The live musicians were MP, TF, SS, AH and Gustaf Lindström.
4.1.9 Discussions among the members of Ghost on how the business should be organized were not held in 2010. TF, however, had taken on the role of Contact person for 'Ghost'. Since the band wasn’t profitable, no discussions on how profits would be distributed were held. The agreement was instead that all profits would be reinvested in the business.
2011
4.1.11 Since the album Opus Eponymous was a success, the partners began to devote more and more of their time to the activities of the Ghost and toured nest almost throughout 2011 around the world. MR entered as a new member of the band and a partner in the legal partnership in January 2011.
4.1.12 Starting in January 2011 the partners went from booking the concerts themselves, to use different booking agencies and production companies. Sometime during the period January-March 2011 they hired Bidy Van Drangelen, Netherlands, as concert bookers. During spring they hired on the company Lucky You AB, which was driven by Uno Friedner, for concert production. Thereafter, concert booking was handled by '' The Agency Group, "and then taken over by Nick Storch at the booking agency ICM. The first concert booked by Nick Storch was a gig at The Bowery ballroom in New York on 18 January 2012.
4.1.13 In spring 2011 discussions began between the partners about how the activities of '' Ghost 'would be organized and how the revenues of the band would be handled, and several of meetings were held between the partners.
4.1.14 At a meeting at the home of SS March 2, 2011, at which TF, Gustaf Lindström, SS, MP, AH and MR attended, see Appendix 8 a. the partners confirmed that TFs role would be to band leader and write the band's music. Other people would essentially act as a musician in the band. TF would answer for aesthetic issues, but consult with other members. Decisions about what concerts to play all the partners would be taken in consultation. At the meeting, they also discussed what role the management would have in the band.
4.1.15 In spring 2011 Gustaf Lindström left the band and was replaced by RO
4.1.16 At a second meeting at the home of MP April 2, 2011, the partners reached an oral agreement that the profit would be distributed equally among the members of the band. Present at this meeting were TF, RO, SS, MP, AH and MR.
4.1.17 During May and June 2011, the '' Ghost ' played a number of gigs in the US. The members distributed profit from the merchandise equally between themselves
4.1.18 In summer 2011 the band came in contact with various management companies who offered their services. In this connection a number of meetings were held between the partners and prospective manager. On October 1, 2011 all partners signed an agreement with The Rick Sales Entertainment Group. In the agreement TF, SS, MP, RO, AH and MR, gave the manager the right to represent'' Ghost 'in respect of all its activities in the entertainment industry (§ 1 A of the Management Agreement). In the agreement the partners gave the manager right to, among other things negotiate all agreements regarding '' Ghost '(C §§ 1 & 5 in the Management Agreement). The compensation was paid to the manager of the management contract as performance-based and were calculated in percent of the gross revenue of Ghosts (§ 3 A in the Management Agreement). Management would then receive a commission from, Ghosts royalties from record sales (digital and physical), merchandise sales and Ghosts tour income.
4.1.19 The Management Agreement was signed by all members of the '' Ghost '. As the addresses of the partnership, the contract stated the address of TF and his Swedish company Swedish Drama Pop AB.
4.1.20 In October 2011 the partners began more detailed discussion of Ghosts economic business. Among other things, the possibility to register a jointly owned business
4.1.21 In October 2011 (most likely 4 October - see the mail from Sissi Hagald dated 5 October 2011, appendix #) the partners had a meeting with accounting economist Magnus Strömblad. At the meeting they discussed the possibility of moving the business to a cooperation that would be owned by all band members. The meeting also discussed the possibilities to operate in a jointly-owned American company. Following discussions between TF and The Manager, TF however, proposed a different approach for the band. As an explanation that the band should not put the business in cooperative or joint-venture partnerships or limited companies, TF stated that there was not time to start such a company and that an immediate solution to the situation was demanded. (see appendix 2).
4.1.22 The written proposal from TF (see Appendix 2) suggested that TF, through his company Swedish Drama Pop AB would handle the partnership's business. Swedish Drama Pop AB would then collect the members' income, pay the partnerships costs and then distribute the surplus among the partners. For tax purposes, this would be accomplished by the members created private firms, and then invoice Swedish Drama Pop AB for their respective share of the advance, concert payments and all other revenues. The idea was, according to TF, the Swedish Drama Pop AB would continue to be his company, but that it would have the same function as a jointly-owned corporation. By this model, often used in single companies, TF har single-handedly taken control over the finances of the band.
4.1.23 In connection with the arrangement proposed by TF the partners would establish a partnership agreement that would clearly state the economic divisions between partners. Examples of income that would be subject to management under this partnership agreement were merchandise revenues, royalties from record sales, concert payments and cultural donation.
4.1.24 The other partners accepted the setup proposed by TF. A written partnership agreement was, however, never established, although the plaintiffs on several occasions demanded it.
2.1.25 In October 2011 "ghost" hired the international company Global Merchandising Services for the manufacture and sale of merchandise for the group. Global Merchandising Services has subsequently handled the group's merchandise sales over the years.
2012
2.1.26 In spring 2012, the '' Ghost 'came in contact with a series of new record labels, the negotiations were run by the manager with the support of the mandate the manager received from partners of' Ghost '. In the end it was decided that the agreement would be signed with Universal Music in the United States. Later was also signed a contract with Universal Music in Sweden. The agreements were signed by TF on behalf of the partnership. The agreements acquired Universal Music among other things the exclusive rights to a number of albums with '' Ghost '. In return, Universal Music would pay a royalty to '' Ghost '.
4.1.27 In 2012 the band recorded their second album titled Infestissumam. A first version was recorded in SSs studio, but because Universal Music was not satisfied with that version, a new recording was done in a recording studio in Nashville, Tennessee. The recording lasted for six weeks. MP and SS participated as musicians during all these six weeks. TF stead for three of those weeks and contributed vocals and some guitar playing. RO and MR also took part in the recording.
4.1.28 In 2012 the economic situation of members became ever more precarious. This is because the members were active in the music group full time and received no compensation for their work. According to TF all income was reinvested in the band and it was broke. After some pressure, however, the members were offered some sporadic payments in 2012 that were attributed to an advance on future merchandise sales Merchandising Global Services had paid. On the advice of the band's accountants, the members would invoice Swedish Drama Pop AB for these expenses. These payments in 2012 meant that the advances from the merchandise sales were distributed, at least in part, equally between the partners
2013
4.1.29 The album Infestissumam was released April 10, 2013, and after that the band out on an extensive world tour. On this tour TF, SS, MP, RO, AH and MR were playing live.
4.1.30 During the summer of 2013 the EP If You Have Ghost was recorded. The recording was made in Los Angeles and all the members, except MR and RO, participated in the recording. MR and RO did not participate in the recording due to a low budget.
4.1.31 20 July 2013 RO left the group.
4.1.32 As in previous years, discussions about the financial situation was carried out in 2013. In January 2013 SS and MP had a meeting with the group's lawyer, Sissi Hagald, who announced that there still wasn’t any money in “ Ghost "and that it was too early to sign a contract governing members' financial dealings. SS, MP and Sissi Hagald agreed, however, that members would receive a monthly payment. Even this time she informed the plaintiffs that their monthly payments would be taken out of the advances Global Merchandising Services paid.
4.1.33 In January 2013 MR received an email from Sissi Hagald. The email gives MR instructions for the monthly invoices, see Appendix 6, which is information that other plaintiffs also have received. Sissi Hagald announced that the invoices be sent to the English company Papastrello Limited and sent to an accounting firm in England. Attached to the email was an invoice template. According to the instructions the partners should indicate on the invoice that it proposed a monthly on-account payment.
4.1.34 Papastrello Limited is now owned by TF, but has previously been owned by the Swedish Drama Pop AB, see Appendix 11. According to the information that the plaintiffs have taken part of, TF placed parts of the management mandate he received from the other members through Papastrello Limited and allowed this company to receive among other things, advances from the merchandise sales.
4.1.35 By the email from Sissi Hagald to MR, see Appendix 6. She states that there is a lack of money, but it is hoped that the project '' Ghost with break even, and ideally with a nice profit when the big investments are made.
2014
4.1.36 In the spring of 2014 'Ghost toured around the world, but in September 2014 the group decided to pause the touring to work on a new album.
4.1.37 In autumn the band making demo recordings of Ghosts third album Meliora. TF and MP participated in these demos.
4.1.38 AH left the band on November 21, 2014. MH replaced him during the second half of December 2014. MH was added as members by SS.
2015
4.1.39 January 5, 2015, HP was asked if he wanted to participate in the recording of Meliora that had begun in a recording studio in Stockholm. After about a week HP was also asked if he wanted to become a permanent member of the band. HP said yes.
4.1.40 The recording of Meliora continued in January-February 2015. HP's efforts as a musician on the recording were significant. SS took part in the recording. MR did not appear. As the reason, TF and producer Klas Åhlund stated ‘lack of time’.
4.1.41 After HP and MH had become permanent members of '' Ghost ', they received, as well as other members a monthly on-account payment. As with other members, Papastrello Limited was invoiced
4.1.42 In January 2015 a meeting was held at the home of MP at which HP, MH, SS, MP and TF attended. Again, the question of a partnership agreement came up, and TF announced that he would ask the manager to develop a proposal for a contract.
4.1.43 In the spring of 2015 '' Ghost 'began rehearsing for the oncoming tour. All members participated at these rehearsals except TF.
4.1.44 In August 2015 the album Meliora was released. After that, '' Ghost” virtually toured uninterrupted for the remaining 2015 around the world. TF, SS, MP, MH, MR and HP played in all of these gigs
2016
4.1.45 In 2016, Ghost toured, more or less continuously, during February, April-June and September-November. On the gigs up until June 2016 TF, SS, MP, MH, MR and HP played all shows. On the gigs in the autumn of 2016 MP was replaced by Meghan Thomas. MP left the band in July, 2016.
4.1.46 In March 2016 the EP Popestar was recorded in a studio in Linkoping. MH, HP and TF participated in the recording. MR failed again to appear due to lack of time. Unlike previous recordings, SS did not appeared in the recording. This was due to SS being tired of TF not having replied to requests for partnership agreement.
4.1.47 On April 8, 2016 the partners each received a contract proposal from Sissi Hagald. was not a partnership agreement as expected, but an employment contract between TFs companies, Papastrello Limited and the partners. After allowing a lawyer review the contract, the partners confronted TF regarding the contracts. This happened in April 2016 Straudsburg, the United States during the US tour. At the meeting the plaintiffs explained that they did not consider the contract representing the partnership agreement they expected, they considered that the agreement was a slave contract and that they could not accept to only receive a monthly salary, but also wanted a share of the profit in accordance with the agreement previously reached. TF said he was innocent and announced that it was not he who was behind the contract. TF explained that he did not want the other members to sign the contract and to asked the other members to understand that it was "not intended that he would become a millionaire while other members would live on subsistence level."
4.1.48 In September 2016 the band members received a new proposal for a contract. This proposal was rejected by the plaintiffs since it neither reflected the current agreement or gave them fair compensation for their work as members of the '' Ghost '.
4.1.49 On November 7, 2016, an agreement between HP, MH, SS and MR, on the one hand, and Papastrello Limited, on the other hand, regarding the then ongoing tour. Under this agreement HP, MH, SS and MR received a fixed fee for their touring in September to November in 2016.
4.1.50 On November 28, 2016, TFs lawyer, Sissi Hagald sent an email to me – the plaintiffs’ lawyer. In this email Sissi Hagald explained that "It should be clear for your clients that no agreement regarding their involvement as a musician in the '' Ghost" does exist "and that" It should also be made clear to them that they will not be considered for future engagement as principal does not intend to once again be blackmailed for future tours. "
4.1.51 On December 16, 2016, the plaintiffs sent, through me, a letter to TF and Sissi Hagald. In this letter the plaintiffs outlined their position and stated that the partners joint operations accounted for a partnership in the legal sense, the profit of the business shall be shared equally between partners and TF had no right to unilaterally '' fire” the plaintiffs from ‘'Ghost' (and then operate further on this own ). In the letter the plaintiffs also requested TF to submit a detailed account of the business income in the years 2011-2016.
4.1.52 On December 20, 2016, TF disputed, via Sissi Hagald, that a partnership existed, or had previously existed, and explained to the plaintiffs that she did not expect any additional contacts on the matter.
MCC (Omega y su hermano) han hecho bolos en Londres (sold out) y un par de festivales en Suecia. Están grabando el próximo LP.
Mauro Rubino no estoy seguro, pero sigue relacionado con ellos.
Alpha ahora es productor.
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por Harvey Dent Jue Abr 12 2018, 15:31
radiorag escribió:Harvey Dent escribió:Por cierto radiorag, que paso con las "Rats"? (a los que va a ir dedicada la temática del disco fijo)
Que fue de Omega y el Italiano y los ex-Ghouls demandantes? Reactivaron Magna Cartel pero ni giran ni nada no?
El juicio sigue su curso. Hace 10 días han presentado las últimas alegaciones al juez.
- Spoiler:
3.1 The issue of the plaintiffs and TF conduct the above operations for the '' Ghost 'in a legal partnership, in which they all are partners, is disputed. The question of TF has handled the management of the legal partnership's business is equally contentious.
3.2 Uncertainty because the plaintiffs have not received the share of profit they are entitled under the partnership agreement. How much profit each of the plaintiffs is entitled cannot be estimated without TF presenting accounts to the plaintiffs according to the plaintiffs' motion under 1.2 (i).
4 Facts
4.1 Background
The time prior 2010
4.1.1 All persons involved in the lawsuit, as well as other persons that have been members of Ghost, come from the same musical circles and some of the members have also played together in several bands through the years. For example, TF played in the band "MCC" with SS and MP (both members of Ghost) approx. 2016-2010. SS, MP and TF had before that, played together in the band "Subvision".
4.1.2 SS and MP also played together in 1990-2014 in the band "Roswell". Another member og Roswell was Claudio Marino. Claudio Marino created a large part of the graphical design used by Ghost at the beginning of the band's career. Pelle Hällje, who created the persona "Papa Emeritus" - who Ghost based their entire image on, was also a person in these musical circles.
4.1.3 The first time TF mentioned the project "Ghost" to SS was in 2009. TF told SS that he had tried to record some songs with a friend from Stockholm, but according to TF the project was to be considered a hobby project. At the same time, TF had brought his old band "Repugnant" back to life and his plan was to start up Repugnant again with new band members.
2010
4.1.4 In the spring of 2010 SS and TF recorded the songs Ritual, Elizabeth, Death Knell and Prime Mover together. The recordings were made in SS's studio. TF had composed the songs and written the lyrics, but SS was in charge of the recording process, did the production, programmed all drums and, together with, did all the arrangements. The recordings were made available under the name of '' Ghost 'web service MySpace. One of the recordings, Elizabeth, was also released as a single in June 2010 on the German label Iron Pegasus Records.
4.1.5 In the spring of 2010 the album Opus Eponymous was also recorded. The recording of Opus eponymous was (predominantly) done in SS's studio and Gustaf Lindström, SS and TF acted as musicians, singers and producers. Ludvig Kernberg also participated as a drummer and hired studio musicians. GL had previously been involved in the project (even though he wasn't a part of the recording of demos done by TF and SS). SS also acted on the album as acting artist since he, among other things, programmed keyboards and acted as producer of the recording. As producer SS took, among other things, part of the decisions of the sound of drums, guitars, bass and keyboards, as well as adjusted and arranged riffs, melodies, rhythms and fills.
4.1.6 In May 2010, an agreement was signed with the record label Rise Above Records regarding, among other things release of the album Opus Eponymous. TF signed the contract for the music group's behalf.
4.1.7 On 23 October 2010, the bands first concert under the name of '' Ghost 'was at the Hammer Of Doom festival in Wiirzburg, Germany. Before the concert, MP and AH had joined '' Ghost '. AH had been asked by SS if he wanted to join '' Ghost '.
4.1.8 The concert on October 23, 2010, and other gigs in 2010 were booked by the partners themselves through contacts. The live musicians were MP, TF, SS, AH and Gustaf Lindström.
4.1.9 Discussions among the members of Ghost on how the business should be organized were not held in 2010. TF, however, had taken on the role of Contact person for 'Ghost'. Since the band wasn’t profitable, no discussions on how profits would be distributed were held. The agreement was instead that all profits would be reinvested in the business.
2011
4.1.11 Since the album Opus Eponymous was a success, the partners began to devote more and more of their time to the activities of the Ghost and toured nest almost throughout 2011 around the world. MR entered as a new member of the band and a partner in the legal partnership in January 2011.
4.1.12 Starting in January 2011 the partners went from booking the concerts themselves, to use different booking agencies and production companies. Sometime during the period January-March 2011 they hired Bidy Van Drangelen, Netherlands, as concert bookers. During spring they hired on the company Lucky You AB, which was driven by Uno Friedner, for concert production. Thereafter, concert booking was handled by '' The Agency Group, "and then taken over by Nick Storch at the booking agency ICM. The first concert booked by Nick Storch was a gig at The Bowery ballroom in New York on 18 January 2012.
4.1.13 In spring 2011 discussions began between the partners about how the activities of '' Ghost 'would be organized and how the revenues of the band would be handled, and several of meetings were held between the partners.
4.1.14 At a meeting at the home of SS March 2, 2011, at which TF, Gustaf Lindström, SS, MP, AH and MR attended, see Appendix 8 a. the partners confirmed that TFs role would be to band leader and write the band's music. Other people would essentially act as a musician in the band. TF would answer for aesthetic issues, but consult with other members. Decisions about what concerts to play all the partners would be taken in consultation. At the meeting, they also discussed what role the management would have in the band.
4.1.15 In spring 2011 Gustaf Lindström left the band and was replaced by RO
4.1.16 At a second meeting at the home of MP April 2, 2011, the partners reached an oral agreement that the profit would be distributed equally among the members of the band. Present at this meeting were TF, RO, SS, MP, AH and MR.
4.1.17 During May and June 2011, the '' Ghost ' played a number of gigs in the US. The members distributed profit from the merchandise equally between themselves
4.1.18 In summer 2011 the band came in contact with various management companies who offered their services. In this connection a number of meetings were held between the partners and prospective manager. On October 1, 2011 all partners signed an agreement with The Rick Sales Entertainment Group. In the agreement TF, SS, MP, RO, AH and MR, gave the manager the right to represent'' Ghost 'in respect of all its activities in the entertainment industry (§ 1 A of the Management Agreement). In the agreement the partners gave the manager right to, among other things negotiate all agreements regarding '' Ghost '(C §§ 1 & 5 in the Management Agreement). The compensation was paid to the manager of the management contract as performance-based and were calculated in percent of the gross revenue of Ghosts (§ 3 A in the Management Agreement). Management would then receive a commission from, Ghosts royalties from record sales (digital and physical), merchandise sales and Ghosts tour income.
4.1.19 The Management Agreement was signed by all members of the '' Ghost '. As the addresses of the partnership, the contract stated the address of TF and his Swedish company Swedish Drama Pop AB.
4.1.20 In October 2011 the partners began more detailed discussion of Ghosts economic business. Among other things, the possibility to register a jointly owned business
4.1.21 In October 2011 (most likely 4 October - see the mail from Sissi Hagald dated 5 October 2011, appendix #) the partners had a meeting with accounting economist Magnus Strömblad. At the meeting they discussed the possibility of moving the business to a cooperation that would be owned by all band members. The meeting also discussed the possibilities to operate in a jointly-owned American company. Following discussions between TF and The Manager, TF however, proposed a different approach for the band. As an explanation that the band should not put the business in cooperative or joint-venture partnerships or limited companies, TF stated that there was not time to start such a company and that an immediate solution to the situation was demanded. (see appendix 2).
4.1.22 The written proposal from TF (see Appendix 2) suggested that TF, through his company Swedish Drama Pop AB would handle the partnership's business. Swedish Drama Pop AB would then collect the members' income, pay the partnerships costs and then distribute the surplus among the partners. For tax purposes, this would be accomplished by the members created private firms, and then invoice Swedish Drama Pop AB for their respective share of the advance, concert payments and all other revenues. The idea was, according to TF, the Swedish Drama Pop AB would continue to be his company, but that it would have the same function as a jointly-owned corporation. By this model, often used in single companies, TF har single-handedly taken control over the finances of the band.
4.1.23 In connection with the arrangement proposed by TF the partners would establish a partnership agreement that would clearly state the economic divisions between partners. Examples of income that would be subject to management under this partnership agreement were merchandise revenues, royalties from record sales, concert payments and cultural donation.
4.1.24 The other partners accepted the setup proposed by TF. A written partnership agreement was, however, never established, although the plaintiffs on several occasions demanded it.
2.1.25 In October 2011 "ghost" hired the international company Global Merchandising Services for the manufacture and sale of merchandise for the group. Global Merchandising Services has subsequently handled the group's merchandise sales over the years.
2012
2.1.26 In spring 2012, the '' Ghost 'came in contact with a series of new record labels, the negotiations were run by the manager with the support of the mandate the manager received from partners of' Ghost '. In the end it was decided that the agreement would be signed with Universal Music in the United States. Later was also signed a contract with Universal Music in Sweden. The agreements were signed by TF on behalf of the partnership. The agreements acquired Universal Music among other things the exclusive rights to a number of albums with '' Ghost '. In return, Universal Music would pay a royalty to '' Ghost '.
4.1.27 In 2012 the band recorded their second album titled Infestissumam. A first version was recorded in SSs studio, but because Universal Music was not satisfied with that version, a new recording was done in a recording studio in Nashville, Tennessee. The recording lasted for six weeks. MP and SS participated as musicians during all these six weeks. TF stead for three of those weeks and contributed vocals and some guitar playing. RO and MR also took part in the recording.
4.1.28 In 2012 the economic situation of members became ever more precarious. This is because the members were active in the music group full time and received no compensation for their work. According to TF all income was reinvested in the band and it was broke. After some pressure, however, the members were offered some sporadic payments in 2012 that were attributed to an advance on future merchandise sales Merchandising Global Services had paid. On the advice of the band's accountants, the members would invoice Swedish Drama Pop AB for these expenses. These payments in 2012 meant that the advances from the merchandise sales were distributed, at least in part, equally between the partners
2013
4.1.29 The album Infestissumam was released April 10, 2013, and after that the band out on an extensive world tour. On this tour TF, SS, MP, RO, AH and MR were playing live.
4.1.30 During the summer of 2013 the EP If You Have Ghost was recorded. The recording was made in Los Angeles and all the members, except MR and RO, participated in the recording. MR and RO did not participate in the recording due to a low budget.
4.1.31 20 July 2013 RO left the group.
4.1.32 As in previous years, discussions about the financial situation was carried out in 2013. In January 2013 SS and MP had a meeting with the group's lawyer, Sissi Hagald, who announced that there still wasn’t any money in “ Ghost "and that it was too early to sign a contract governing members' financial dealings. SS, MP and Sissi Hagald agreed, however, that members would receive a monthly payment. Even this time she informed the plaintiffs that their monthly payments would be taken out of the advances Global Merchandising Services paid.
4.1.33 In January 2013 MR received an email from Sissi Hagald. The email gives MR instructions for the monthly invoices, see Appendix 6, which is information that other plaintiffs also have received. Sissi Hagald announced that the invoices be sent to the English company Papastrello Limited and sent to an accounting firm in England. Attached to the email was an invoice template. According to the instructions the partners should indicate on the invoice that it proposed a monthly on-account payment.
4.1.34 Papastrello Limited is now owned by TF, but has previously been owned by the Swedish Drama Pop AB, see Appendix 11. According to the information that the plaintiffs have taken part of, TF placed parts of the management mandate he received from the other members through Papastrello Limited and allowed this company to receive among other things, advances from the merchandise sales.
4.1.35 By the email from Sissi Hagald to MR, see Appendix 6. She states that there is a lack of money, but it is hoped that the project '' Ghost with break even, and ideally with a nice profit when the big investments are made.
2014
4.1.36 In the spring of 2014 'Ghost toured around the world, but in September 2014 the group decided to pause the touring to work on a new album.
4.1.37 In autumn the band making demo recordings of Ghosts third album Meliora. TF and MP participated in these demos.
4.1.38 AH left the band on November 21, 2014. MH replaced him during the second half of December 2014. MH was added as members by SS.
2015
4.1.39 January 5, 2015, HP was asked if he wanted to participate in the recording of Meliora that had begun in a recording studio in Stockholm. After about a week HP was also asked if he wanted to become a permanent member of the band. HP said yes.
4.1.40 The recording of Meliora continued in January-February 2015. HP's efforts as a musician on the recording were significant. SS took part in the recording. MR did not appear. As the reason, TF and producer Klas Åhlund stated ‘lack of time’.
4.1.41 After HP and MH had become permanent members of '' Ghost ', they received, as well as other members a monthly on-account payment. As with other members, Papastrello Limited was invoiced
4.1.42 In January 2015 a meeting was held at the home of MP at which HP, MH, SS, MP and TF attended. Again, the question of a partnership agreement came up, and TF announced that he would ask the manager to develop a proposal for a contract.
4.1.43 In the spring of 2015 '' Ghost 'began rehearsing for the oncoming tour. All members participated at these rehearsals except TF.
4.1.44 In August 2015 the album Meliora was released. After that, '' Ghost” virtually toured uninterrupted for the remaining 2015 around the world. TF, SS, MP, MH, MR and HP played in all of these gigs
2016
4.1.45 In 2016, Ghost toured, more or less continuously, during February, April-June and September-November. On the gigs up until June 2016 TF, SS, MP, MH, MR and HP played all shows. On the gigs in the autumn of 2016 MP was replaced by Meghan Thomas. MP left the band in July, 2016.
4.1.46 In March 2016 the EP Popestar was recorded in a studio in Linkoping. MH, HP and TF participated in the recording. MR failed again to appear due to lack of time. Unlike previous recordings, SS did not appeared in the recording. This was due to SS being tired of TF not having replied to requests for partnership agreement.
4.1.47 On April 8, 2016 the partners each received a contract proposal from Sissi Hagald. was not a partnership agreement as expected, but an employment contract between TFs companies, Papastrello Limited and the partners. After allowing a lawyer review the contract, the partners confronted TF regarding the contracts. This happened in April 2016 Straudsburg, the United States during the US tour. At the meeting the plaintiffs explained that they did not consider the contract representing the partnership agreement they expected, they considered that the agreement was a slave contract and that they could not accept to only receive a monthly salary, but also wanted a share of the profit in accordance with the agreement previously reached. TF said he was innocent and announced that it was not he who was behind the contract. TF explained that he did not want the other members to sign the contract and to asked the other members to understand that it was "not intended that he would become a millionaire while other members would live on subsistence level."
4.1.48 In September 2016 the band members received a new proposal for a contract. This proposal was rejected by the plaintiffs since it neither reflected the current agreement or gave them fair compensation for their work as members of the '' Ghost '.
4.1.49 On November 7, 2016, an agreement between HP, MH, SS and MR, on the one hand, and Papastrello Limited, on the other hand, regarding the then ongoing tour. Under this agreement HP, MH, SS and MR received a fixed fee for their touring in September to November in 2016.
4.1.50 On November 28, 2016, TFs lawyer, Sissi Hagald sent an email to me – the plaintiffs’ lawyer. In this email Sissi Hagald explained that "It should be clear for your clients that no agreement regarding their involvement as a musician in the '' Ghost" does exist "and that" It should also be made clear to them that they will not be considered for future engagement as principal does not intend to once again be blackmailed for future tours. "
4.1.51 On December 16, 2016, the plaintiffs sent, through me, a letter to TF and Sissi Hagald. In this letter the plaintiffs outlined their position and stated that the partners joint operations accounted for a partnership in the legal sense, the profit of the business shall be shared equally between partners and TF had no right to unilaterally '' fire” the plaintiffs from ‘'Ghost' (and then operate further on this own ). In the letter the plaintiffs also requested TF to submit a detailed account of the business income in the years 2011-2016.
4.1.52 On December 20, 2016, TF disputed, via Sissi Hagald, that a partnership existed, or had previously existed, and explained to the plaintiffs that she did not expect any additional contacts on the matter.
MCC (Omega y su hermano) han hecho bolos en Londres (sold out) y un par de festivales en Suecia. Están grabando el próximo LP.
Mauro Rubino no estoy seguro, pero sigue relacionado con ellos.
Alpha ahora es productor.
Para que luego digáis, me he leído la demanda entera.
Conociendo un poco el mundillo desde dentro, los ex-Ghouls están jodidos a no ser que la defensa de Tobias sea una mierda (que lo dudo)
Tobias es el compositor de todo, y el que facturaba. A ver como le vas al juez de que "Pero nosotros estábamos allí y hacíamos arreglos en los temas y me prometió mi parte". La jodiste, todo firmado, siempre. Regla num 1.
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por wakam Jue Abr 12 2018, 15:36
Puto papa satánico, qué malvado que es.
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por el xavea e`lamoto Jue Abr 12 2018, 21:01
A que hora y donde hay que estar?
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por Yomis Jue Abr 12 2018, 21:10
A las 22.05 aquí.
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por Wyno Jue Abr 12 2018, 21:33
[MESSAGE FROM the CLERGY]
— Cardinal Copia (@thebandGHOST) April 12, 2018
We wish to inform you Cardinal Copia has taken his place in the legion. pic.twitter.com/8d3MmqPpmF
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por romuloyeah Jue Abr 12 2018, 21:56
que viene, que viene
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por RHEINGOLD Jue Abr 12 2018, 21:59
Ya hacía años que no esperaba un single de un grupo mirando constantemente el relojromuloyeah escribió:que viene, que viene
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por Micromegas Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:01
¡Vamos! 
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por Yomis Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:01
Ya debería estar sonando el ououooooo!!
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por Yomis Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:02
Yo desde el Chinese.RHEINGOLD escribió:Ya hacía años que no esperaba un single de un grupo mirando constantemente el relojromuloyeah escribió:que viene, que viene
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por el xavea e`lamoto Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:10
yo tambien, y gracias por el aviso Yomis, que viva rockberto en gloria esteYomis escribió:Yo desde el Chinese.RHEINGOLD escribió:Ya hacía años que no esperaba un single de un grupo mirando constantemente el relojromuloyeah escribió:que viene, que viene
Última edición por el xavea e`lamoto el Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:12, editado 1 vez
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por disturbiau Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:11
Como van esas ratas? Nada?
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por gayeta Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:12
Iyo que pasaaaaa
Rats rats rats
Rats rats rats
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por RHEINGOLD Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:12
Tensa espera. De momento nada. "Si te gustan los fantasmas esperad"
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por RHEINGOLD Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:12
RHEINGOLD escribió:Tensa espera. De momento nada. "Si os gustan los fantasmas esperad"
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por Moderno Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:13
Veo que de momento ni ratas ni nada.
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por Yomis Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:15
Bravo, que grande.el xavea e`lamoto escribió:yo tambien, y gracias por el aviso Yomis, que viva rockberto en gloria esteYomis escribió:Yo desde el Chinese.RHEINGOLD escribió:Ya hacía años que no esperaba un single de un grupo mirando constantemente el relojromuloyeah escribió:que viene, que viene
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por lacan Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:15
nos ha hecho la púa
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por Yomis Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:16
Joder el Cardenal.RHEINGOLD escribió:Tensa espera. De momento nada. "Si te gustan los fantasmas esperad"
Que cabrón.
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por danitoledo Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:16
¿Hay link o no hay link? Venga, que vego entonado de tomar birras y es el broche del oro al dia copon
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por rockyourass Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:16
Vamos Radiorag...pega esos links!! Seguro que sabes cosas
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por danitoledo Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:17
Yomis escribió:Joder el Cardenal.RHEINGOLD escribió:Tensa espera. De momento nada. "Si te gustan los fantasmas esperad"
Que cabrón.
Que le degraden y le hagan arzobispo, merecido lo tendría.
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por RHEINGOLD Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:17
http://banditrock.radio.es
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por Moderno Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:19
RHEINGOLD escribió:http://banditrock.radio.es
Le atizo y salen No Doubt. Pero aquí qué pasa!
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por rockyourass Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:20
Rock FM sueca...
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por RHEINGOLD Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:22
Ahora Ac/Dc. Esta bien para amenizar la espera, coño
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por RHEINGOLD Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:23
Por lo visto en SiriusXm ya la han estrenado
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por wakam Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:26
Ha molado.
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por borope Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:29
RHEINGOLD escribió:Por lo visto en SiriusXm ya la han estrenado
Radio por satélite y de pago. Normal que vayan ellos primero
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por RHEINGOLD Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:30
En Bandit hay que esperar media hora
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por romuloyeah Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:31
Joder, y nadie en le puto mundo lo ha grabado y colgado ya?
https://www.apowersoft.com/free-audio-recorder-online
https://www.apowersoft.com/free-audio-recorder-online
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por wakam Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:33
Me avisáis.
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por RHEINGOLD Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:34
Un pollo esta preparando un youtube
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por EnzoFernandz Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:35
Aquí dejo el link, en Reddit lo han grabado https://m.sendspace.com/file/ojrcxn , un saludo 
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por borope Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:37
EnzoFernandz escribió:Aquí dejo el link, en Reddit lo han grabado https://m.sendspace.com/file/ojrcxn , un saludo
gracias!!
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por jarcorcriu Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:44
Pues me ha molado. Hype por las nubes.
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por RHEINGOLD Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:44
TE-MA-ZO, cojones ya
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por borope Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:45
RHEINGOLD escribió:TE-MA-ZO, cojones ya
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por gayeta Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:46
El estribillo es hiper adictivo.
LO TIENEN.
LO TIENEN.
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por Resurrection_Fest Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:46
El hype ya no se puede contener, qué pasada de temazo... 
Esperando a que saquen un audio oficial para compartirlo en las redes del festival. Este disco los llevará a otro nivel, estamos seguros.
Esperando a que saquen un audio oficial para compartirlo en las redes del festival. Este disco los llevará a otro nivel, estamos seguros.
Resurrection_Fest
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por Micromegas Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:47
El estribillo es clásico instantáneo joder.
Suena muy metal y producido todo.
Suena muy metal y producido todo.
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por RHEINGOLD Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:47
Tema cañero, gran solo, arreon tras el ultimo estribillo y el teclado final. SI ROTUNDO.
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Re: Papa Emeritus y sus discípulos reparten misas oscuras
por slasraven Jue Abr 12 2018, 22:47
Paren temazos a una velocidad de vertigo.borope escribió:RHEINGOLD escribió:TE-MA-ZO, cojones ya
HYPE por las nubes!!!!
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