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Me temo que Juancho se unirá al exclusivo club Trust The Process
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Rayo escribió:Moltisanti escribió:Rayo escribió:¿Butler sale también?
NO.
Gracias.
De momento.
Si le rodean de jóvenes promesas como Calderón, etc, llegará un día que tendrá que plantearse ciertas cosas.
De todos modos, lo que ayer se me pasó por la cabeza es que esto podría ser un primer movimiento para hacerse con Durant.
Que a lo mejor digo alguna chorrada, pero...
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caponeslashdot escribió:Me temo que Juancho se unirá al exclusivo club Trust The Process
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Muy buena retrospectiva (aunque no estoy de acuerdo con lo de traspasar a Jimmy).
Derrick Rose grew from our concrete, but the cracks became too large
by Jon Greenberg,
When the Bulls called Derrick Rose on Wednesday to tell him the dream was over, that the former Most Valuable Player was traded to the New York Knicks for the lesser Lopez brother and Harvey Grant’s son, the conversation was brief.
“Yeah, I tried to get Derrick, but it went right to voice mail,” Bulls general manager Gar Forman said at the Advocate Center on Wednesday afternoon. “We tried several times. I ended up just talking to (Rose’s agent) B.J. (Armstrong) for quite awhile. We’re going to talk to Derrick a little bit later. The sense I got is that Derrick will be excited about New York.”
A bittersweet but fitting end to a once-sweet relationship that soured with injuries, personality conflicts and circumstances beyond anyone’s control.
When Rose crumpled to the ground in the first game of the 2012 playoffs, the Bulls’ world changed forever. We didn’t know it then. We convinced ourselves for years that Rose’s future would be like his past.
While Forman didn’t get to talk to Rose, a source close to the point guard told me the Englewood product is excited to play in New York, but sad to say goodbye to his hometown. They heard the rumors, but weren’t sure New York would actually make the deal. His contract was up after this season and the Bulls were moving on without him.
As was noted by half of Twitter, Rose was traded from Chicago the same day LeBron James was feted by Cleveland.
If Rose never got hurt that spring afternoon against the 76ers, maybe he still never beats James in the playoffs. Maybe the end result is the same. But we’ll never know. We were all robbed of the possibility. Because Rose at his peak was a sight to behold, the living embodiment of all that is good about basketball. A South Side kid running the town.
There are few athletes that could elicit such strong reactions. He brought joy to the masses and when he couldn’t bring that joy, his absence created anger.
Rose won his MVP award five years ago, but it feels like another lifetime.
He was rewarded with a max contract of $94-plus million, sweetened by the “Derrick Rose Rule” and a shoe deal that guaranteed him generational wealth. But the next season proved to be his undoing. The truncated lockout season wore him down and finally he broke.
The Bulls put together a couple inspiring seasons under coach Tom Thibodeau’s vise-like grip, but never came close to title contention. After so much planning around Rose, the Bulls felt it was time to move on. It wasn’t his fault he kept getting hurt, but the reality of the situation was evident.
“It’s tough,” Forman said. “Derrick gave you some clarity. In other words, in putting together a team, one of the first questions we would ask as a front office is does it fit Derrick Rose? Derrick was the MVP the one year and arguably one of the top three or four players in the entire league, so you’re putting pieces together trying to chase that championship. When he goes down, that obviously has an effect in a lot of different ways.”
There’s the butterfly effect and the Rose effect. The latter has Tom Thibodeau running the show in Minnesota and the Bulls trying to figure out how to get out of the muck of mediocrity.
Rose will play the last year of his blockbuster contract (he’ll make around $21 million next season) in New York. I think he’ll have a good year, healthy and free from the existential baggage here.
In return, the Bulls got center Robin Lopez, second-year guard Jerian Grant and veteran guard Jose Calderon. Forman hyped up the trio as critical to the franchise’s next step, which remains vague.
“In putting our plan together, we felt as a first step this really made sense for us,” Forman said. “And obviously having Jerian Grant who we’re high on and on a rookie scale contract long-term plays a part in it with free agency this summer and next summer. We’ve got to evaluate things both long-term and short-term.”
Lopez signed a four-year, $54 million deal before last season. His arrival spells the unofficial goodbye to Joakim Noah, though Forman wouldn’t admit it yet. It’s just a formality. Noah was already a goner as he hits free agency. He wasn’t happy with his role last year before going down with a shoulder injury in January. Not only was he upset with how Fred Hoiberg handled his benching — making it seem like Noah volunteered for a diminished role — but he was only playing 20-something minutes a night.
When Noah signs elsewhere, that could leave Taj Gibson as the only surviving player from the 2011 Eastern Conference Finals team. His contract is up too after the season and you can believe he’s available on draft night.
The Bulls are now rebuilding, so he’s expendable.
“I wouldn’t call it a rebuild, more of a retool,” Forman said.
Every rebuilding general manager says that.
But he’s right in that the Bulls aren’t trading Jimmy Butler now. Last year’s first-round pick Bobby Portis is a keeper. Maybe Doug McDermott. Other than those three, everyone should be available in a deal.
Should fans be confident in a plan to build the team around Hoiberg’s offense? How long will “Hoiball” last before the team heads in another direction?
“You know we had this window of opportunity and obviously injuries played a part where we couldn’t reach our ultimate goal, which was to be a championship team,” Forman said. “But we felt we had a window during that period where we could compete at a high level. Through injuries and through age, we felt that window was coming to a close. When we look back a year ago, I think you could start to see signs it was coming to a close. But we didn’t have a lot of flexibility and we wanted to give the group, as was, the year to try and see where we could go.
“We also talked about putting together a plan moving forward and simple terms, our plan moving forward we feel we need to get younger, we need to get more athletic. Obviously we need to find players that will fit the style of play that Fred wants to play and fits some of the players that we have on the team. In making this trade, we feel it’s the first step in that direction. We’re really excited about the three guys that we’re getting.”
The Bulls will need a lot of luck to get back to a championship contender. This is a team that has never attracted a premier free agent in their prime. Hoiberg’s first season as the head coach was a disaster. No one is coming here to play with Butler. The West Side practice facility is nice, but last I checked, there’s still winter in Chicago.
The Bulls should trade Butler for a draft pick and bottom out, but that doesn’t seem to be their direction. Maybe they’ll be a playoff team next season. I wouldn’t count on it.
The Bulls were lucky to have Rose in the first place. They cashed in a 1.7 percent chance for the top pick in the 2008 draft and got the Simeon Career Academy star.
Rose went from Rookie of the Year to All-Star to the youngest MVP in successive seasons. He played the part of the humble star, gave back to his community, refused to dance at the All-Star game. He was so very likable. It was too good to last.
With one tear of the ACL, everything changed. Rose said all the wrong things. Confusion reigned about his status as the team failed to protect his image. People around Rose poisoned the water. Then he got hurt again. And again. Three knee surgeries in three years. He missed too much time to recover what he lost. Fans couldn’t count on him. The Bulls couldn’t count on him. Then came the sexual assault allegations last summer and the civil suit filed against him.
For a guy who once brought nothing but joy to his city, his public existence became a slog.
His final season with the Bulls started with a teammate injuring his eye in their first practice. It was like he couldn’t avoid it. Rose’s body became a magnet for trauma.
He soldiered through the eye injury last fall, never complaining. But the sight of him in that mask playing like a quarter of himself was too much to handle. When his vision returned and he scrapped the mask, Rose played much better. But he wasn’t the MVP anymore. There weren’t any more excuses.
It’s funny that Rose now gets to play with Carmelo Anthony. He was criticized for not welcoming Anthony with enough fervor during Anthony’s free agency tour in 2014. It was part of the overaggressive criticism that Rose faced as his image crumbled in the city. He couldn’t do anything right.
If he spoke, would he say something wrong? If he fell, would he get up? It was exhausting.
But still, I wanted to Rose to come back for another year. I believed in the potential for rebirth. Maybe it happens in New York. Maybe it doesn’t. He can always say he was the Most Valuable Player in the league once upon a time. That’s not a tragedy.
Now that it’s over, I think back to a winter afternoon at the old Berto Center in December 2011. The lockout had just lifted and Rose had signed his new deal and his extravagant shoe contract and we thought it would only get better. He and I were talking about how he spent his summer as the reigning MVP. It wasn’t a celebration. The Maurice Podoloff trophy sat in the living room of his condo while he worked out in Los Angeles. The loss to the Miami Heat in the Eastern Conference finals still stung. He was invited on the late night talk shows, but he refused to go on.
“I didn’t win a championship yet, so there’s no point to celebrate,” he said to me that day. “Celebrate what? Go on talk shows for what? Because I lost? I’m not going on any shows or anything until I win a championship.”
Rose never won that championship for Chicago, but the show goes on without him.
Derrick Rose grew from our concrete, but the cracks became too large
by Jon Greenberg,
When the Bulls called Derrick Rose on Wednesday to tell him the dream was over, that the former Most Valuable Player was traded to the New York Knicks for the lesser Lopez brother and Harvey Grant’s son, the conversation was brief.
“Yeah, I tried to get Derrick, but it went right to voice mail,” Bulls general manager Gar Forman said at the Advocate Center on Wednesday afternoon. “We tried several times. I ended up just talking to (Rose’s agent) B.J. (Armstrong) for quite awhile. We’re going to talk to Derrick a little bit later. The sense I got is that Derrick will be excited about New York.”
A bittersweet but fitting end to a once-sweet relationship that soured with injuries, personality conflicts and circumstances beyond anyone’s control.
When Rose crumpled to the ground in the first game of the 2012 playoffs, the Bulls’ world changed forever. We didn’t know it then. We convinced ourselves for years that Rose’s future would be like his past.
While Forman didn’t get to talk to Rose, a source close to the point guard told me the Englewood product is excited to play in New York, but sad to say goodbye to his hometown. They heard the rumors, but weren’t sure New York would actually make the deal. His contract was up after this season and the Bulls were moving on without him.
As was noted by half of Twitter, Rose was traded from Chicago the same day LeBron James was feted by Cleveland.
If Rose never got hurt that spring afternoon against the 76ers, maybe he still never beats James in the playoffs. Maybe the end result is the same. But we’ll never know. We were all robbed of the possibility. Because Rose at his peak was a sight to behold, the living embodiment of all that is good about basketball. A South Side kid running the town.
There are few athletes that could elicit such strong reactions. He brought joy to the masses and when he couldn’t bring that joy, his absence created anger.
Rose won his MVP award five years ago, but it feels like another lifetime.
He was rewarded with a max contract of $94-plus million, sweetened by the “Derrick Rose Rule” and a shoe deal that guaranteed him generational wealth. But the next season proved to be his undoing. The truncated lockout season wore him down and finally he broke.
The Bulls put together a couple inspiring seasons under coach Tom Thibodeau’s vise-like grip, but never came close to title contention. After so much planning around Rose, the Bulls felt it was time to move on. It wasn’t his fault he kept getting hurt, but the reality of the situation was evident.
“It’s tough,” Forman said. “Derrick gave you some clarity. In other words, in putting together a team, one of the first questions we would ask as a front office is does it fit Derrick Rose? Derrick was the MVP the one year and arguably one of the top three or four players in the entire league, so you’re putting pieces together trying to chase that championship. When he goes down, that obviously has an effect in a lot of different ways.”
There’s the butterfly effect and the Rose effect. The latter has Tom Thibodeau running the show in Minnesota and the Bulls trying to figure out how to get out of the muck of mediocrity.
Rose will play the last year of his blockbuster contract (he’ll make around $21 million next season) in New York. I think he’ll have a good year, healthy and free from the existential baggage here.
In return, the Bulls got center Robin Lopez, second-year guard Jerian Grant and veteran guard Jose Calderon. Forman hyped up the trio as critical to the franchise’s next step, which remains vague.
“In putting our plan together, we felt as a first step this really made sense for us,” Forman said. “And obviously having Jerian Grant who we’re high on and on a rookie scale contract long-term plays a part in it with free agency this summer and next summer. We’ve got to evaluate things both long-term and short-term.”
Lopez signed a four-year, $54 million deal before last season. His arrival spells the unofficial goodbye to Joakim Noah, though Forman wouldn’t admit it yet. It’s just a formality. Noah was already a goner as he hits free agency. He wasn’t happy with his role last year before going down with a shoulder injury in January. Not only was he upset with how Fred Hoiberg handled his benching — making it seem like Noah volunteered for a diminished role — but he was only playing 20-something minutes a night.
When Noah signs elsewhere, that could leave Taj Gibson as the only surviving player from the 2011 Eastern Conference Finals team. His contract is up too after the season and you can believe he’s available on draft night.
The Bulls are now rebuilding, so he’s expendable.
“I wouldn’t call it a rebuild, more of a retool,” Forman said.
Every rebuilding general manager says that.
But he’s right in that the Bulls aren’t trading Jimmy Butler now. Last year’s first-round pick Bobby Portis is a keeper. Maybe Doug McDermott. Other than those three, everyone should be available in a deal.
Should fans be confident in a plan to build the team around Hoiberg’s offense? How long will “Hoiball” last before the team heads in another direction?
“You know we had this window of opportunity and obviously injuries played a part where we couldn’t reach our ultimate goal, which was to be a championship team,” Forman said. “But we felt we had a window during that period where we could compete at a high level. Through injuries and through age, we felt that window was coming to a close. When we look back a year ago, I think you could start to see signs it was coming to a close. But we didn’t have a lot of flexibility and we wanted to give the group, as was, the year to try and see where we could go.
“We also talked about putting together a plan moving forward and simple terms, our plan moving forward we feel we need to get younger, we need to get more athletic. Obviously we need to find players that will fit the style of play that Fred wants to play and fits some of the players that we have on the team. In making this trade, we feel it’s the first step in that direction. We’re really excited about the three guys that we’re getting.”
The Bulls will need a lot of luck to get back to a championship contender. This is a team that has never attracted a premier free agent in their prime. Hoiberg’s first season as the head coach was a disaster. No one is coming here to play with Butler. The West Side practice facility is nice, but last I checked, there’s still winter in Chicago.
The Bulls should trade Butler for a draft pick and bottom out, but that doesn’t seem to be their direction. Maybe they’ll be a playoff team next season. I wouldn’t count on it.
The Bulls were lucky to have Rose in the first place. They cashed in a 1.7 percent chance for the top pick in the 2008 draft and got the Simeon Career Academy star.
Rose went from Rookie of the Year to All-Star to the youngest MVP in successive seasons. He played the part of the humble star, gave back to his community, refused to dance at the All-Star game. He was so very likable. It was too good to last.
With one tear of the ACL, everything changed. Rose said all the wrong things. Confusion reigned about his status as the team failed to protect his image. People around Rose poisoned the water. Then he got hurt again. And again. Three knee surgeries in three years. He missed too much time to recover what he lost. Fans couldn’t count on him. The Bulls couldn’t count on him. Then came the sexual assault allegations last summer and the civil suit filed against him.
For a guy who once brought nothing but joy to his city, his public existence became a slog.
His final season with the Bulls started with a teammate injuring his eye in their first practice. It was like he couldn’t avoid it. Rose’s body became a magnet for trauma.
He soldiered through the eye injury last fall, never complaining. But the sight of him in that mask playing like a quarter of himself was too much to handle. When his vision returned and he scrapped the mask, Rose played much better. But he wasn’t the MVP anymore. There weren’t any more excuses.
It’s funny that Rose now gets to play with Carmelo Anthony. He was criticized for not welcoming Anthony with enough fervor during Anthony’s free agency tour in 2014. It was part of the overaggressive criticism that Rose faced as his image crumbled in the city. He couldn’t do anything right.
If he spoke, would he say something wrong? If he fell, would he get up? It was exhausting.
But still, I wanted to Rose to come back for another year. I believed in the potential for rebirth. Maybe it happens in New York. Maybe it doesn’t. He can always say he was the Most Valuable Player in the league once upon a time. That’s not a tragedy.
Now that it’s over, I think back to a winter afternoon at the old Berto Center in December 2011. The lockout had just lifted and Rose had signed his new deal and his extravagant shoe contract and we thought it would only get better. He and I were talking about how he spent his summer as the reigning MVP. It wasn’t a celebration. The Maurice Podoloff trophy sat in the living room of his condo while he worked out in Los Angeles. The loss to the Miami Heat in the Eastern Conference finals still stung. He was invited on the late night talk shows, but he refused to go on.
“I didn’t win a championship yet, so there’s no point to celebrate,” he said to me that day. “Celebrate what? Go on talk shows for what? Because I lost? I’m not going on any shows or anything until I win a championship.”
Rose never won that championship for Chicago, but the show goes on without him.
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en esa lista falta lo mejor.
Los derechos sobre Ricky Sanchez.
Los derechos sobre Ricky Sanchez.
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caponeslashdot escribió:en esa lista falta lo mejor.
Los derechos sobre Ricky Sanchez.
joder...ese estuvo por aquí también, no?
¿Opciones de ver a Jarvis Varnado en Indiana?
Con ese nombre no tiene que ser malo.
Un stopper en toda regla por lo que veo.
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Varnado es deficiente. Tapona. Poco más.
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Moltisanti escribió:Varnado es deficiente. Tapona. Poco más.
Perfil Estudiantes entonces.
Voy a informar.
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Moltisanti escribió:Varnado es deficiente. Tapona. Poco más.
Miami lo probó con uno de esos contratos de 10 días. No tuvo muchos minutos la verdad, pero no fue como con Whiteside donde todos menos Spo vimos su potencial el primer día (también aterrizó con un contrato de esos que gustan en el PP).
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Boohan escribió:Moltisanti escribió:Varnado es deficiente. Tapona. Poco más.
Miami lo probó con uno de esos contratos de 10 días. No tuvo muchos minutos la verdad, pero no fue como con Whiteside donde todos menos Spo vimos su potencial el primer día (también aterrizó con un contrato de esos que gustan en el PP).
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Rotorhead escribió:A que hora (de aquí) es el draft????
Conectan a la 1 de la madrugada de aquí, pero guiándome por el draft del año pasado que está en youtube hasta pasado lo menos media hora-40 minutos no van a empezar a soltar nombres. Yo a partir de la 1 y media por lo menos ya conectaría a ver por donde van (si es que lo vas a ver claro yo creo que lo veré, ando estudiando hasta tarde igual me lo pongo de fondo)
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Moltisanti escribió:JonRHCP escribió:Boohan escribió:JonRHCP escribió:El GM de Chicago diciendo que debían pasar ya de esta etapa con Rose (ha alabado sus esfuerzos por recuperar el tono, tono que tiene en la actualidad, o eso ha dicho vaya) y que creen que los 3 jugadores que vienen son perfectos y tiene "sentido" pillarlos porque encajan en el proceso que tienen en mente para futuro.
Se da por hecho que Gasol se pira, no?
O se trata más bien de que no le quieren?
He visto un video de unos 2-3 minutos y no han dicho nada sobre el tema, yo creo que en Chicago se da por hehco que Pau quiere irse, y más por algunas declaraciones de que tiene ganas de ser Free Agent, que quiere ganar pasta con el nuevo contrato blablabla, Bulls le debieron de ofrecer un contrato de dos años cercano a 20 kilos por año, pero Pau debe querer un contrato de 3 (esto todo se lo oí a Daimiel allá por abril y luego lo leí también en ESPN)
Eso es falso. Rigurosamente falso. 20 kilos por año a Gasol es imposible que le ofrecieran. Imposible.
Puede que Antoni se las tirara perfectamente si, a mi también me pareció excesivo y más sabiendo que igual querían hacer algo de hueco para este verano.
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Indiana adquiere a Tad Young a cambio de su pick de 1°ronda de este año (20) y una 2° ronda futura
Teague + Ellis + George + Young + Mahinmi / Turner. Equipo muy majo y competitivo que les queda
Y sixers que quiere el pick 3 de Boston, para pillarse un base en el draft. Ofrecen a Okafor creo
Teague + Ellis + George + Young + Mahinmi / Turner. Equipo muy majo y competitivo que les queda
Y sixers que quiere el pick 3 de Boston, para pillarse un base en el draft. Ofrecen a Okafor creo
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JonRHCP escribió:
En definitiva mis prediccionesen función de necesidades y lo que tienen en plantilla:
Sixers ----> Ben Simmons
Lakers ----> Brandon Ingram
Celtics -----> Dragan Bender (no necesitan un guard, van a pasar de Hield/Dunn)
Suns -----> (Es el que mad dudas me genera, si confian en la vuelta de Bledsoe pillan a Brown, sino pillan a Dunn)
Timberwolves -----> Kris Dunn
Pelicans -----> Jamal Murray
Nuggets ------> Buddy Hield
Pues parece que los Suns no confían en la vuelta de Bledsoe al mejor nivel e igual van a por Kris Dunn para formar pareja joven y prometedora junto a Devin Booker.
Parece que van a buscar un traspaso para Bledsoe, Knight y Chandler.
Todo esto si Celtics no pilla a Dunn, que lo dudo muchísimo.
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Boston prefiere otras cosas por el Pick 3, pero puede que al final les cambien a Dunn (Pick 3) x Noel + un pick bajo de 76ers
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Y los Wolves van a pillar a Dunn con Ricky... no se
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Hoy va a estar muy calentita la cosa si a lo de los Suns añadimos lo que acaba de decir Rotor de que Sixers están pujando fuerte por esa tercera elección
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melon head escribió:Y los Wolves van a pillar a Dunn con Ricky... no se
Todo el tema depende de si los Celtics se la juegan con Bender, ha estado top3 desde hace meses hasta hace 1 día, pero ahora parece que está cayendo bastante, los yankees aun no se fían de estos jugadores, aun teniendo reciente el caso de Kristaps.
Le están dando una séptima elección (Nuggets) que personalmente no creo que baje tanto..
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Es que o traspasas antes al base que tienes o si pillas a Dunn teniendo a Smart, Bledsoe o Ricky sabes que el resto de los equipos te van a ofrecer menos del valor del jugador.
Y luego está el tema de que los PGs cada vez dan el salto antes y están verdes. Los Wolves no necesitan un Muday que tenga que gastar 2 o 3 años en producir con regularidad, les viene mejor Ricky
Y luego está el tema de que los PGs cada vez dan el salto antes y están verdes. Los Wolves no necesitan un Muday que tenga que gastar 2 o 3 años en producir con regularidad, les viene mejor Ricky
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melon head escribió:Es que o traspasas antes al base que tienes o si pillas a Dunn teniendo a Smart, Bledsoe o Ricky sabes que el resto de los equipos te van a ofrecer menos del valor del jugador.
Y luego está el tema de que los PGs cada vez dan el salto antes y están verdes. Los Wolves no necesitan un Muday que tenga que gastar 2 o 3 años en producir con regularidad, les viene mejor Ricky
Dunn ha completado ciclo en la universidad, tiene 22 años, tiene algo de margen de mejora pero viene bastante hecho, de ahí el interés de Sixers.
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Ahora están subiendo todas las páginas a Marquese Chriss (Washington) a top5, pero yo a este tío aún siendo bueno y haciendo números digamos decentes, me parece una pasada que pueda salir tan arriba, no sé, bastantes incertidumbres.
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Al final todo se reduce a si escoges al mejor jugador o al jugador que mejor te conviene por posición
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JonRHCP escribió:Ahora están subiendo todas las páginas a Marquese Chriss (Washington) a top5, pero yo a este tío aún siendo bueno y haciendo números digamos decentes, me parece una pasada que pueda salir tan arriba, no sé, bastantes incertidumbres.
Ayer andaban especulando con que los Lakers podrian pillarlo.
Tambien que se andan planteando un Russell por Okafor.
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Ojo con Miami y su 61st pick. Ojo
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Eric Sachs escribió:JonRHCP escribió:Ahora están subiendo todas las páginas a Marquese Chriss (Washington) a top5, pero yo a este tío aún siendo bueno y haciendo números digamos decentes, me parece una pasada que pueda salir tan arriba, no sé, bastantes incertidumbres.
Ayer andaban especulando con que los Lakers podrian pillarlo.
Tambien que se andan planteando un Russell por Okafor.
Ambas mentira, créeme
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Madre mia los Nets ,mandamos a Thad Young a Indiana por el Nº 20 del draft
El nuevo GM Sean Marks empieza con buen pie , cambia al 2º mejor jugador del equipo por el pick 20.
A ver a quien elegimos y que conseguimos en la free agency , espero que sea para hacer sitio a Ryan Anderson o un cuatro de nivel.
Por lo menos parece que los Nets van a tener un Nº1 del draft de todas maneras, eso si del 2013 : Anthony Benett ha estado probando con ellos y también suena Jan Vesely del Fenherbace
El nuevo GM Sean Marks empieza con buen pie , cambia al 2º mejor jugador del equipo por el pick 20.
A ver a quien elegimos y que conseguimos en la free agency , espero que sea para hacer sitio a Ryan Anderson o un cuatro de nivel.
Por lo menos parece que los Nets van a tener un Nº1 del draft de todas maneras, eso si del 2013 : Anthony Benett ha estado probando con ellos y también suena Jan Vesely del Fenherbace
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Cuidado que Juancho le están dando posibilidad de rozar 18,19 y 20, ojo que va para Brooklyn.
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JonRHCP escribió:Cuidado que Juancho le están dando posibilidad de rozar 18,19 y 20, ojo que va para Brooklyn.
Tengo comprobadisimo que los Ñs siempre acaban 8 o 9 posiciones por debajo de lo que les dan en principio en Draft Express .
Al hermano el año pasado lo ponian el 25 o asi y acabo en la segunda ronda.
No tendra la potra de caer a los Spurs.
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JonRHCP escribió:Cuidado que Juancho le están dando posibilidad de rozar 18,19 y 20, ojo que va para Brooklyn.
Nunca he oido nada de un interes de los Nets por Juancho, de hecho en la lista de jugadores que han hecho workouts para los Nets no aparecía, bien es cierto que hasta ahora solo han sonado jugadores de segunda ronda .
Ahora que tienen pick en la primera suena Isaiah Whitehead que por lo visto es de Brooklyn .
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Por cierto que al Amigo Jamon de Bellota ya solo le falta un traspaso a los Bucks para completar el Tour de los Grandes Lagos.
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cantrell escribió:JonRHCP escribió:Cuidado que Juancho le están dando posibilidad de rozar 18,19 y 20, ojo que va para Brooklyn.
Nunca he oido nada de un interes de los Nets por Juancho, de hecho en la lista de jugadores que han hecho workouts para los Nets no aparecía, bien es cierto que hasta ahora solo han sonado jugadores de segunda ronda .
Ahora que tienen pick en la primera suena Isaiah Whitehead que por lo visto es de Brooklyn .
Si, no digo que haya interés por parte de Brooklyn ojo, digo que por lo que dicen algunas webs (es cierto qe yo creo que va a estar sobre el 24-25) parece que va a estar cerca del pick de Brooklyn y estos y más aun tradeando a Young necesitan un 4.
Juancho solo hizo un entreno, fue en un draft combine en Chicago creo recordar hará cosa de unas dos semanas, eran de estos entrenos que podían ir todos los equipos que quisieran y verlo, no era un entreno privado, y convenció a muchísimos ojeadores, de ahi que subiera en las proyecciones de un 35-40 hasta el 18 que le dan algunas ahora.
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Yo las que he visto una le tiene con Denver y otra con San Antonio.JonRHCP escribió:cantrell escribió:JonRHCP escribió:Cuidado que Juancho le están dando posibilidad de rozar 18,19 y 20, ojo que va para Brooklyn.
Nunca he oido nada de un interes de los Nets por Juancho, de hecho en la lista de jugadores que han hecho workouts para los Nets no aparecía, bien es cierto que hasta ahora solo han sonado jugadores de segunda ronda .
Ahora que tienen pick en la primera suena Isaiah Whitehead que por lo visto es de Brooklyn .
Si, no digo que haya interés por parte de Brooklyn ojo, digo que por lo que dicen algunas webs (es cierto qe yo creo que va a estar sobre el 24-25) parece que va a estar cerca del pick de Brooklyn y estos y más aun tradeando a Young necesitan un 4.
Juancho solo hizo un entreno, fue en un draft combine en Chicago creo recordar hará cosa de unas dos semanas, eran de estos entrenos que podían ir todos los equipos que quisieran y verlo, no era un entreno privado, y convenció a muchísimos ojeadores, de ahi que subiera en las proyecciones de un 35-40 hasta el 18 que le dan algunas ahora.
Estaria bien para el San Antonio.
Y estaria curioso que cayera hasta lakers en segunda ronda.
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Los 3 equipos que mencionas podrían ser un buen destino, para los Lakers con el #32 podría molar, si bien ya tenemos a Nance Jr en la posición de 4 pero puede ser, puede ser.
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Si cae tan abajo no creo que de el salto tan pronto. Firmará por un grande 3-4 años para ganar algo de pasta
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A que hora empieza el draft? Igual lo sigo.
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Nance tambien pude jugar de 3.JonRHCP escribió:Los 3 equipos que mencionas podrían ser un buen destino, para los Lakers con el #32 podría molar, si bien ya tenemos a Nance Jr en la posición de 4 pero puede ser, puede ser.
Por cierto que no dicen nada de ello pero yo al que trataria de empaquetar por ahi en algun trade seria a randle.
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thad young a pacers por la pick numero 20
Los thunder andan explorando opciones de traspaso para ibaka.
Los thunder andan explorando opciones de traspaso para ibaka.
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Elephant Man escribió:A que hora empieza el draft? Igual lo sigo.
A la 01:00 conectan, a que hora empieza el meneo? Ni idea
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javiviramone escribió:a la 1
http://www.wiz1.net/schedule
Me diste la vida cuando pasaste hace tiempo esta página Javivi, no lo sabes bien
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melon head escribió:Si cae tan abajo no creo que de el salto tan pronto. Firmará por un grande 3-4 años para ganar algo de pasta
En realidad es mejor caer en segunda ronda que ser seleccionado del 21 al 30
Si sales en primera baja te pagan una miseria por el contrato standart, si caes a segunda puedes negociar tu contrato.
Y eso sin contar que en la parte baja de primera ronda iras a un equipo competitivo con peligro de convertirte en agitatoallas y en la parte alta de la segunda vas a una banda de equipo y tienes tu oportunidad de ganarte tus minutos.
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Ojo.
Dicen que rubio y pekovic a suns por Bledsoe y Tucker.
Bellinelli por la pick 22.
Dicen que rubio y pekovic a suns por Bledsoe y Tucker.
Bellinelli por la pick 22.
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Pues Jaylen Brown a Boston, creía que se iba para los Suns pero sorpresa, esto quiere decir:
- Que Boston se queda el pick
- O que Boston va a tradear pero no con los Sixers...
- Que Boston se queda el pick
- O que Boston va a tradear pero no con los Sixers...
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javiviramone escribió:se esta hablando de butler a boston
crowder y avery en las negociaciones y el pick 3
OJO que esto puede encajar.. Brown es un 2/3 ultradefensor y muy atletico, le falla el tiro.
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Bender, quitando el cambio con Brown me da que voy a clavar todas, veréis como ahora sale Dunn para Minny
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Jojojojo lo dije!! Dunn a Minny! Le van a dar papeleta a Ricardo
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Ricky al barca que arroyo se va y necesitan 2 base
Segun leo, chicago quería la 5 + lavine x butler.....
Que mierda se han fumado?
Edito: y minni no quería.... la madre que me parió
Segun leo, chicago quería la 5 + lavine x butler.....
Que mierda se han fumado?
Edito: y minni no quería.... la madre que me parió
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