Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
Haz una cosa, como ellos no tienen forma de saber si te va a llegar, pase lo que pase, diles que no te llega, y cuando pase el tiempo máximo de llegada, les reclamas el dinero. Si te llega, pues uno va a ser gratis y lo puedes vender. No es muy ético, pero ellos son los que lo mandan cuando y como les sale de los cojones.Txomin escribió:Ya les mandé, pero me dicen que ya salió....John Custer escribió:Reclama que no te ha llegado y que te devuelvan el dinero y te vas a una tienda a comprartelo hoy mismo. Barato te va a salir.Txomin escribió:Esto ya es cachondeo, no? Me voy a cagar en todo.red_mosquito escribió:Te da las gracias por comprar el disco y te invita a hacer una reseña del producto que has comprado. Como incentivo te ofrecen vales descuento por cada reseña que escribas y resulte aprobada.Txomin escribió:Mail recibido de wow hd, me pone lo sigueinte: alguien me puede traducir....porque me suena a cachondeo si es lo que creo (encuesta del producto recibido)
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
Es que me han llegado dos, Bill Callahan y Hangmen, pero me falta el de Bowie, uno de los cuervos, el de Israel y el de PJ. Son de diferentes pedidos, pero los hize en un período de 2-3 días, luego tendría que mirar la fecha en la que puso dispatched, pero por lo menos 2 semanas han pasado. y de hecho hoy tenía un mail en el que me dicen que el de Israel (el que estaa en backorder), que todavía no lo tienen en stock y que en cuanto les llegue que me lo mandarán. Si fuese sólo el de PJ, sí que les haría lo que dices, Custer, pero con todos los demás.....De todas formas y por saber, todos los que han hecho la compra por Wow hd, lo han recibido?
Txomin- Mensajes : 31771
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
A mi me llama mucho la atención la producción que tiene tan limpia en comparación a la de un Vs. obra de O'Brien que al parecer es fan de las primeras tomas, o lo era... porque a este disco le falta más crudeza.hcsickness escribió:Presente. Además se supone que fue al que se le ocurrió la brillante idea de meter la de Eddie en solitario.javi clemente escribió:¿Alguien más piensa que Brendan O´Brien resta en vez de sumar?
patton- Mensajes : 2678
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
Toni Montana, me imagino que sigues estos temas con el topic, no?, digo para que no haga falta lo de los privados.
Txomin- Mensajes : 31771
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
- En la gira después del show número 9:
- Llevan 99 canciones distintas.
- Curiosamente han acabado más veces con Indifference (5) que con Yellow Ledbetter (4)
- Ninguna canción que no sea de Lightning Bolt ha sido interpretada en todos los conciertos.
- De Lightning Bolt han tocado en todos los shows Mind Your Manners, Sirens y Lightning Bolt.
-La ausencia más destacable hasta ahora es The Fixer. Single de Backspacer e interpretada practicamente en todos los shows de esa gira.
- Otros temas que están por debutar y suelen caer son Inside Job, Severed Hand o Sad.
- De Lightning Bolt fantan por debutar Getaway y Sleeping By Myself (aunque esta ya la ha interpretado EV en solitario).
- Todos los shows han empezado con Pendulum salvo uno. Pero en todos le ha seguido al menos un tema que habitualmente era de comienzo de show (Release, Wash, Long Road,...)
- Durante el primer bis se han sentado para 3-4 canciones en un tono más acústico.
- Llevan 99 canciones distintas.
- Curiosamente han acabado más veces con Indifference (5) que con Yellow Ledbetter (4)
- Ninguna canción que no sea de Lightning Bolt ha sido interpretada en todos los conciertos.
- De Lightning Bolt han tocado en todos los shows Mind Your Manners, Sirens y Lightning Bolt.
-La ausencia más destacable hasta ahora es The Fixer. Single de Backspacer e interpretada practicamente en todos los shows de esa gira.
- Otros temas que están por debutar y suelen caer son Inside Job, Severed Hand o Sad.
- De Lightning Bolt fantan por debutar Getaway y Sleeping By Myself (aunque esta ya la ha interpretado EV en solitario).
- Todos los shows han empezado con Pendulum salvo uno. Pero en todos le ha seguido al menos un tema que habitualmente era de comienzo de show (Release, Wash, Long Road,...)
- Durante el primer bis se han sentado para 3-4 canciones en un tono más acústico.
henchman- Mensajes : 16490
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
Por dios, hench.henchman escribió:Ya he vuelto despues de una semana por UK.
He tratado de seguir todo el post.
Infallible es mi tema favorito del disco.
Lo de los setlist es un puto escandalo.
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
Yo lo que creo es que deben pasar mas tiempo juntos cuando componen canciones.javi clemente escribió:¿Alguien más piensa que Brendan O´Brien resta en vez de sumar?
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
¿En serio que no te mola ni el final desde el solo?
henchman- Mensajes : 16490
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
Los gorgoritos de Eddie me joden la cancion por completo. Y ojo, que no parezca que critico el disco. Me gusta mucho pero me inquieta el rumbo. Para solos, mi favorito por ahora es el de swallowed whole.henchman escribió:¿En serio que no te mola ni el final desde el solo?
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
Encuesta en theskyiscrape, foro bastante potente de PJ, sobre la mejor canción del disco:
1. Pendulum (25%)
2. Getaway (14%)
3. Infallible (13%)
4. Yellow Moon (12%)
5. My Father's Son (12%)
6. Sirens (7%)
7. Swallowed Whole (5%)
8. Lightning Bolt (4%)
1. Pendulum (25%)
2. Getaway (14%)
3. Infallible (13%)
4. Yellow Moon (12%)
5. My Father's Son (12%)
6. Sirens (7%)
7. Swallowed Whole (5%)
8. Lightning Bolt (4%)
henchman- Mensajes : 16490
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
En EF la encuesta acaba de empezar. Pero Infallible también va tercera.
henchman- Mensajes : 16490
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
Infallible es la canción.
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
elway escribió:Infallible es la canción.
henchman- Mensajes : 16490
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
No se es gusto personal pero no veo INFALLIBLE superior a GETAWAY o SIRENS, por cierto el final de ésta última es épica.
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
henchman escribió:elway escribió:Infallible es la canción.
Gora Rock- Mensajes : 35766
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
Las dos mejores del disco, las dos últimas... WTF? Estoy empezando a perder la fé en la humanidad.henchman escribió:Encuesta en theskyiscrape, foro bastante potente de PJ, sobre la mejor canción del disco:
1. Pendulum (25%)
2. Getaway (14%)
3. Infallible (13%)
4. Yellow Moon (12%)
5. My Father's Son (12%)
6. Sirens (7%)
7. Swallowed Whole (5%)
8. Lightning Bolt (4%)
rearviewmirror- Mensajes : 33248
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
Ha sido una decisión difícil pero ya no hay vuelta atrás... ha eliminado let the records play de la lista de reproducción del mp3... al final se queda un disco muy majo:P
chispendi- Mensajes : 577
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
henchman escribió:elway escribió:Infallible es la canción.
Con Infallible a muerte.
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
Muy bien por Pendulum.henchman escribió:Encuesta en theskyiscrape, foro bastante potente de PJ, sobre la mejor canción del disco:
1. Pendulum (25%)
2. Getaway (14%)
3. Infallible (13%)
4. Yellow Moon (12%)
5. My Father's Son (12%)
6. Sirens (7%)
7. Swallowed Whole (5%)
8. Lightning Bolt (4%)
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
Van Halen FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
Mira, esa solo la han tocado 2 veces, las dos en hartford.
Última noche de mi hermano en su gira con pearl jam. Me seguiré atormentando por el resto de setlist de la gira, pero al menos no le odiare a el.
Última noche de mi hermano en su gira con pearl jam. Me seguiré atormentando por el resto de setlist de la gira, pero al menos no le odiare a el.
Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
Me flipa este Corduroy
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
Baltimore
Pendulum
Hard to Imagine
Elderly Woman Behind the Counter in a Small Town
Lightning Bolt
Lukin
Corduroy
Mind Your Manners
Given to Fly
MFC
Sirens
Habit
Daughter (Walk on the Wild Side tag)
Wishlist
Present Tense
Spin the Black Circle
Let the Records Play
Setting Forth (Eddie Vedder song)
Unthought Known
Rearviewmirror
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Yellow Moon
Man of the Hour
Nothingman
I'm Waiting for the Man (The Velvet Underground cover)
Better Man (Save it for Later tag)
Do the Evolution
Blood
Porch
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Once
Love, Reign O'er Me (The Who cover)
Black
Alive
Rockin' in the Free World (Neil Young cover)
Pendulum
Hard to Imagine
Elderly Woman Behind the Counter in a Small Town
Lightning Bolt
Lukin
Corduroy
Mind Your Manners
Given to Fly
MFC
Sirens
Habit
Daughter (Walk on the Wild Side tag)
Wishlist
Present Tense
Spin the Black Circle
Let the Records Play
Setting Forth (Eddie Vedder song)
Unthought Known
Rearviewmirror
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Yellow Moon
Man of the Hour
Nothingman
I'm Waiting for the Man (The Velvet Underground cover)
Better Man (Save it for Later tag)
Do the Evolution
Blood
Porch
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Once
Love, Reign O'er Me (The Who cover)
Black
Alive
Rockin' in the Free World (Neil Young cover)
Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
Last night at Pearl Jam’s show in Baltimore there was tension between Jeff Ament and the rest of the band. Eddie Vedder did not introduce Jeff during the band introductions, and Ament reportedly looked upset when Eddie failed to mention him and his mood changed after being upbeat earlier during the show. Ament threw down his ear plugs and stormed off stage immediately with a pissed off look on his face when the show ended.
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
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We are very sorry to know that you haven't received your orders for Pearl Jam - Lightning Bolt .
We have complete confidence in our delivery partners; however, due to varying factors out of our control, there may be occasions when deliveries are delayed. We are confident that delivery will be made shortly and appreciate your patience. Should your item not arrive after 21 days of the original shipment date please notify us by return email.
As for the item Israel Nash Gripka - Israel Nash's Rain Plans , we are still waiting for this item to come in from the supplier as they have been out of stock for some time. At this stage, the supplier has been unable to provide us with a specific delivery date.
We will continue to attempt to source this item and as soon as it has been received we will ship yours out to you immediately. You will also receive a despatch confirmation via email when this occurs.
We apologise for any inconvenience that this may cause and once again thank you for your continued patience.
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Más excusas....¿no?
Txomin- Mensajes : 31771
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
Ajo y agua, básicamente.
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
aupa txomin, a mi me pone en los detalles del pedido Despatched, con fecha del 15 de octubre. De hecho, puse en la dirección de entrega la del curro y ahora veo que el delivery adress aparece la de casa (tampoco sería mucho problema pero me extraña)
¿debería de enviarles mail? ¿donde está la pestaña de contacto o reclamaciones?
¿debería de enviarles mail? ¿donde está la pestaña de contacto o reclamaciones?
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
m b v escribió:Last night at Pearl Jam’s show in Baltimore there was tension between Jeff Ament and the rest of the band. Eddie Vedder did not introduce Jeff during the band introductions, and Ament reportedly looked upset when Eddie failed to mention him and his mood changed after being upbeat earlier during the show. Ament threw down his ear plugs and stormed off stage immediately with a pissed off look on his face when the show ended.
Esto es cierto???
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
Pues qué raro, siempre he pensado que Jeff es el más cercano a Eddie, ya desde las primeras giras.
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
hombre, en el no code hubo mucha tensión, no se si entre ellos dos en concreto, pero jeff llegó a dejar el grupo durante un breve periodo de tiempo
espero que sea un mosqueo sin más
espero que sea un mosqueo sin más
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
detallazo, acojonantes los bises, Habit hace muchisimo que no la tocaban no?henchman escribió:
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
m b v escribió:Last night at Pearl Jam’s show in Baltimore there was tension between Jeff Ament and the rest of the band. Eddie Vedder did not introduce Jeff during the band introductions, and Ament reportedly looked upset when Eddie failed to mention him and his mood changed after being upbeat earlier during the show. Ament threw down his ear plugs and stormed off stage immediately with a pissed off look on his face when the show ended.
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
Yo les mandé mensaje vía facebook con mi dirección de mail y a partir de ese momento todo vía mail.clashcityrockers escribió:aupa txomin, a mi me pone en los detalles del pedido Despatched, con fecha del 15 de octubre. De hecho, puse en la dirección de entrega la del curro y ahora veo que el delivery adress aparece la de casa (tampoco sería mucho problema pero me extraña)
¿debería de enviarles mail? ¿donde está la pestaña de contacto o reclamaciones?
me ha llegado uno de amazon que pedí el jueves, ya me río por no llorar.
Txomin- Mensajes : 31771
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
reclamacion enviada... a ver qué pasa ahora
clashcityrockers- Mensajes : 8338
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
Entonces es normal q el vinilo no haya llegado??
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
Yo también tengo el de PJ dispatched del 15 de octubre, pero también tengo el de Bowie el 12 de octubre, uno de los cuervos desde el día 2, y el de israel en backorder.clashcityrockers escribió:reclamacion enviada... a ver qué pasa ahora
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
A ver para lo que es cdwow el tiempo de espera es normal hasta ahora, simplemente es cuestión de tiempo que lleguen.
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
Hostia macho, casi un mes para el de los cuervos y más de 15 días para otros dos....el jueves pedí el mismo que he pedido en wow, en amazon y ya está aquí. Vale que no es de fuera, pero coño.Ciclóncósmico escribió: A ver para lo que es cdwow el tiempo de espera es normal hasta ahora, simplemente es cuestión de tiempo que lleguen.
Txomin- Mensajes : 31771
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
Hombre nunca se puede comparar Amazon con Cdwow, la diferencia respecto a la velocidad en el envío y el trato al cliente es abismal.En todo caso se podrían comparar los vendedores particulares que ofertan sus productos en Amazon, y el envío es parecido al de Cdwow, aunque generalmente vendedores fiables(personalmente recomiendo allyourmusic) suelen tardar menos.
En el caso particular de cdwow depende mucho también de las circunstancias, por ejemplo el último de Kings Of Leon me lo enviaron el 3 de Octubre y me llegó creo el día 23, y sin embargo otro disco me lo enviaron el día 8 y el 16/17 ya lo tenía en casa. Respecto a Pearl Jam ando como todos, los han despachado el 15 y de momento esperando, pero yo creo que esta semana llegan.
Lo que sí puedo decir es que todos los pedidos que he hecho a cdwow me han llegado antes o después.
En el caso particular de cdwow depende mucho también de las circunstancias, por ejemplo el último de Kings Of Leon me lo enviaron el 3 de Octubre y me llegó creo el día 23, y sin embargo otro disco me lo enviaron el día 8 y el 16/17 ya lo tenía en casa. Respecto a Pearl Jam ando como todos, los han despachado el 15 y de momento esperando, pero yo creo que esta semana llegan.
Lo que sí puedo decir es que todos los pedidos que he hecho a cdwow me han llegado antes o después.
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
Bueno, pues por lo menos es un consuelo.Ciclóncósmico escribió:Hombre nunca se puede comparar Amazon con Cdwow, la diferencia respecto a la velocidad en el envío y el trato al cliente es abismal.En todo caso se podrían comparar los vendedores particulares que ofertan sus productos en Amazon, y el envío es parecido al de Cdwow, aunque generalmente vendedores fiables(personalmente recomiendo allyourmusic) suelen tardar menos.
En el caso particular de cdwow depende mucho también de las circunstancias, por ejemplo el último de Kings Of Leon me lo enviaron el 3 de Octubre y me llegó creo el día 23, y sin embargo otro disco me lo enviaron el día 8 y el 16/17 ya lo tenía en casa. Respecto a Pearl Jam ando como todos, los han despachado el 15 y de momento esperando, pero yo creo que esta semana llegan.
Lo que sí puedo decir es que todos los pedidos que he hecho a cdwow me han llegado antes o después.
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
When it rains, it pours.
I'm writing this while laying on a friend's living room, recuperating from a knee surgery brought on from years of abuse in my band. As a teen, I took the unsaid lesson that bands like Black Flag taught me quite literally; play hard or go home. And for over two decades I've done this, and I'm physically paying for it now.
How does this relate to Pearl Jam? Don't worry, I'll get there.
Pearl Jam has never appealed to me in the traditional sense. By the time they were taking root in popular culture, I irrationally despised them. The major label marketing machine behind bands pigeonholed as "grunge" practiced overkill without prejudice, sucking the life out of many of the artists that they came in contact with. Even if certain bands were appealing in the primordial form of "grunge" (Skin Yard, Big Chief, Mudhoney and others) my infatuations quickly deflated with the exploitation of the subgenre. Too much of anything can be a bad thing.
I was a teenage music fanatic in the early '90s, a golden era for aggressive music. Back then, I was recuperating from a broken kneecap. I was laid up for six months, and music became an intense obsession of mine, both as a player and as a devout listener. I would spend hours on end, lost in my head, thinking about the kind of band I wanted and the qualities I wanted to carry one day.
Even then, major labels couldn't piss on my leg and tell me it was raining. I may have known nothing about most things in life, but I felt I could determine if a band was the real deal or not with pinpoint accuracy. I had a voracious appetite for the real thing (still do) and I no tolerance for poseurs, an epithet that even now, I consider a fate worse than death.
One late Saturday night on Headbangers Ball, I saw Pearl Jam's breakthrough video for "Alive" and immediately viewed it as suspect. It had everything a young music lover could possibly want; an arty black-and-white treatment, slow-motion stage dives, and even a visual metaphor for the new craze of "crowd surfing" — the grainy "wave" visual that appears throughout — all in one all-too-perfect package. Something felt off.
As I looked closer, Stone Gossard seemed to be a strange Stevie Ray Vaughan impersonator. Mike McCready's funky stage moves were awkwardly high school, Jeff Ament's crochet Rasta hat was costume-esque, and Eddie Vedder's role as the oblivious heartthrob seemed contrived. Add to that their drummer holding his sticks in a geeky traditional grip, and their fate was sealed in my know-it-all brain: Pearl Jam was a sham.
As Pearl Jam aged, their public resistance to the music industry remained fishy to me. Once-willing participants in the major label millionaire machine, they would lightly bite at the hand that fed them, conceptually aligning themselves with do-it-yourself pioneers Fugazi and the symbolically rebellious Neil Young while still being a cog in the reviled machine.
I turned them off before ever tuning in. For all intents and purposes, Pearl Jam were pop music disguised as alternative art and I wanted no part of it. It took 20 years of my life to pass and some personal introspection to convince me otherwise.
Exactly a year ago, on an overnight drive in the mountains of Oregon, our bassist Nate Newton turned to me and yelled, "We're gonna crash, brace yourselves!" loud enough to be heard over my blaring headphones. Those were the last words uttered before our van and trailer spun out of control, careening into a highway barrier, facing the wrong way on I-84. As we skidded to a halt, I looked at the faces of my bandmates and crew. And that's when it hit me; these people are so different from me, yet we are a family. I love them as such. I never want to lose them. We're different in every conceivable way; upbringings, hates, loves, fears, etc. But we are the same, a crew that finds commonality in the music that we make. I really don't know what I would've done if things took a more tragic turn that night.
And don't laugh, but when we crashed, I was listening to Pearl Jam's version of the Who's "Love, Reign o'er Me."
Still shaken up, we managed to get our wounded van and trailer off the highway, only to sit on a back road waiting for a tow truck to arrive. In pitch blackness I lay on a bench seat, trying to calm my nerves. I wanted to call home and tell my wife I loved her, but there was no service. As the others drifted off to sleep I looked for a distraction from it all. I put my headphones back on and hit play. Pearl Jam's version of "Love Reign o'er Me" washed over me again and I got goosebumps. I played that song over and over that night. Partly because the original is an old favorite, and partly because I needed something comforting in the chaos. Then I distracted myself from our grim situation with thoughts of the band, my life, and the mess I was in. And for the first time in my years of suspiciously listening to Pearl Jam like an investigator, I began to understand the band in a way I never did before.
What I naively misconstrued as a major label sham was actually a true collection of musical misfits. Pearl Jam found each other organically, just like our band did. They never wanted to play anything but honest, emotional music, just like our band played. And they're all intensely different individuals, just like our band is. Pearl Jam wasn't cool or hip, and didn't claim to be. They were awkward kids, just like us. The closer I looked, the more parallels I saw to my own efforts and motivation. Though we played at different volumes and to different ends, we carried something similar in our blood. What I mistook in them as calculated was actually a very different "c" word entirely: character. They were a form of rebellion back then and I was just too stubborn to realize it.
Pearl Jam's bitterness towards the industry was very real. As promising kids, they innocently teetered on the edge of something spectacular only to be shoved off the edge by big business interests. They plummeted through the air, not ready to be the band that the world demanded them to be. The external pressures that cursed them at the peak of their '90s powers could've crushed coal to diamonds. Miraculously they survived the fall and matured into a personal and political musical powerhouse.
I respect them for that.
Lightning Bolt is Pearl Jam's tenth album. Sonically, it's a modern yet warm rock record. At times it carries a pop vagueness and at other times it bears intense emotional weight. Critics often misinterpret it as a weakness, but this disparate assemblage of moods is precisely the band's strength — the varied dynamics they offer are the sound of real-life human complexity. That's the beautiful thing about music: it can speak all kinds of languages.
I know that what I write here doesn't matter to a true artist, nor should it. The emotional fulfillment from what they create is the only thing that matters on their end. As I've grown as an artist and musician I've also grown as a listener of music; I've learned that the musical world doesn't revolve around me and what I prefer to hear. Music being "good or bad" is a flawed idea. Artists make what they want to make and we either connect with it or we don't. Just because we relate to some songs more than others doesn't make the others less valid, we just don't understand them. In fact, we aren't meant to, and that's all right.
Songs on Lightning Bolt that speak to me at this point in my life: "Sirens," "Pendulum," "Yellow Moon" and "Future Days." These songs have something in common: they are tales of love's importance in the face of mortality. That's a universal struggle that I relate to, so much so that it's sometimes the subject of art and music that I make. It may have taken the scare of a lifetime, but I now see Pearl Jam in a different light. Not as symbolic adversaries, but as relatives from a distant land.
Thanks for your time. Talkhouse
http://thetalkhouse.com/reviews/view/jacob-bannon-converge-pearl-jam
Jacob Bannon (Converge, Wear Your Wounds, etc.)
I'm writing this while laying on a friend's living room, recuperating from a knee surgery brought on from years of abuse in my band. As a teen, I took the unsaid lesson that bands like Black Flag taught me quite literally; play hard or go home. And for over two decades I've done this, and I'm physically paying for it now.
How does this relate to Pearl Jam? Don't worry, I'll get there.
Pearl Jam has never appealed to me in the traditional sense. By the time they were taking root in popular culture, I irrationally despised them. The major label marketing machine behind bands pigeonholed as "grunge" practiced overkill without prejudice, sucking the life out of many of the artists that they came in contact with. Even if certain bands were appealing in the primordial form of "grunge" (Skin Yard, Big Chief, Mudhoney and others) my infatuations quickly deflated with the exploitation of the subgenre. Too much of anything can be a bad thing.
I was a teenage music fanatic in the early '90s, a golden era for aggressive music. Back then, I was recuperating from a broken kneecap. I was laid up for six months, and music became an intense obsession of mine, both as a player and as a devout listener. I would spend hours on end, lost in my head, thinking about the kind of band I wanted and the qualities I wanted to carry one day.
Even then, major labels couldn't piss on my leg and tell me it was raining. I may have known nothing about most things in life, but I felt I could determine if a band was the real deal or not with pinpoint accuracy. I had a voracious appetite for the real thing (still do) and I no tolerance for poseurs, an epithet that even now, I consider a fate worse than death.
One late Saturday night on Headbangers Ball, I saw Pearl Jam's breakthrough video for "Alive" and immediately viewed it as suspect. It had everything a young music lover could possibly want; an arty black-and-white treatment, slow-motion stage dives, and even a visual metaphor for the new craze of "crowd surfing" — the grainy "wave" visual that appears throughout — all in one all-too-perfect package. Something felt off.
As I looked closer, Stone Gossard seemed to be a strange Stevie Ray Vaughan impersonator. Mike McCready's funky stage moves were awkwardly high school, Jeff Ament's crochet Rasta hat was costume-esque, and Eddie Vedder's role as the oblivious heartthrob seemed contrived. Add to that their drummer holding his sticks in a geeky traditional grip, and their fate was sealed in my know-it-all brain: Pearl Jam was a sham.
As Pearl Jam aged, their public resistance to the music industry remained fishy to me. Once-willing participants in the major label millionaire machine, they would lightly bite at the hand that fed them, conceptually aligning themselves with do-it-yourself pioneers Fugazi and the symbolically rebellious Neil Young while still being a cog in the reviled machine.
I turned them off before ever tuning in. For all intents and purposes, Pearl Jam were pop music disguised as alternative art and I wanted no part of it. It took 20 years of my life to pass and some personal introspection to convince me otherwise.
Exactly a year ago, on an overnight drive in the mountains of Oregon, our bassist Nate Newton turned to me and yelled, "We're gonna crash, brace yourselves!" loud enough to be heard over my blaring headphones. Those were the last words uttered before our van and trailer spun out of control, careening into a highway barrier, facing the wrong way on I-84. As we skidded to a halt, I looked at the faces of my bandmates and crew. And that's when it hit me; these people are so different from me, yet we are a family. I love them as such. I never want to lose them. We're different in every conceivable way; upbringings, hates, loves, fears, etc. But we are the same, a crew that finds commonality in the music that we make. I really don't know what I would've done if things took a more tragic turn that night.
And don't laugh, but when we crashed, I was listening to Pearl Jam's version of the Who's "Love, Reign o'er Me."
Still shaken up, we managed to get our wounded van and trailer off the highway, only to sit on a back road waiting for a tow truck to arrive. In pitch blackness I lay on a bench seat, trying to calm my nerves. I wanted to call home and tell my wife I loved her, but there was no service. As the others drifted off to sleep I looked for a distraction from it all. I put my headphones back on and hit play. Pearl Jam's version of "Love Reign o'er Me" washed over me again and I got goosebumps. I played that song over and over that night. Partly because the original is an old favorite, and partly because I needed something comforting in the chaos. Then I distracted myself from our grim situation with thoughts of the band, my life, and the mess I was in. And for the first time in my years of suspiciously listening to Pearl Jam like an investigator, I began to understand the band in a way I never did before.
What I naively misconstrued as a major label sham was actually a true collection of musical misfits. Pearl Jam found each other organically, just like our band did. They never wanted to play anything but honest, emotional music, just like our band played. And they're all intensely different individuals, just like our band is. Pearl Jam wasn't cool or hip, and didn't claim to be. They were awkward kids, just like us. The closer I looked, the more parallels I saw to my own efforts and motivation. Though we played at different volumes and to different ends, we carried something similar in our blood. What I mistook in them as calculated was actually a very different "c" word entirely: character. They were a form of rebellion back then and I was just too stubborn to realize it.
Pearl Jam's bitterness towards the industry was very real. As promising kids, they innocently teetered on the edge of something spectacular only to be shoved off the edge by big business interests. They plummeted through the air, not ready to be the band that the world demanded them to be. The external pressures that cursed them at the peak of their '90s powers could've crushed coal to diamonds. Miraculously they survived the fall and matured into a personal and political musical powerhouse.
I respect them for that.
Lightning Bolt is Pearl Jam's tenth album. Sonically, it's a modern yet warm rock record. At times it carries a pop vagueness and at other times it bears intense emotional weight. Critics often misinterpret it as a weakness, but this disparate assemblage of moods is precisely the band's strength — the varied dynamics they offer are the sound of real-life human complexity. That's the beautiful thing about music: it can speak all kinds of languages.
I know that what I write here doesn't matter to a true artist, nor should it. The emotional fulfillment from what they create is the only thing that matters on their end. As I've grown as an artist and musician I've also grown as a listener of music; I've learned that the musical world doesn't revolve around me and what I prefer to hear. Music being "good or bad" is a flawed idea. Artists make what they want to make and we either connect with it or we don't. Just because we relate to some songs more than others doesn't make the others less valid, we just don't understand them. In fact, we aren't meant to, and that's all right.
Songs on Lightning Bolt that speak to me at this point in my life: "Sirens," "Pendulum," "Yellow Moon" and "Future Days." These songs have something in common: they are tales of love's importance in the face of mortality. That's a universal struggle that I relate to, so much so that it's sometimes the subject of art and music that I make. It may have taken the scare of a lifetime, but I now see Pearl Jam in a different light. Not as symbolic adversaries, but as relatives from a distant land.
Thanks for your time. Talkhouse
http://thetalkhouse.com/reviews/view/jacob-bannon-converge-pearl-jam
Jacob Bannon (Converge, Wear Your Wounds, etc.)
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
yo tb pensaba (como se ha dicho en el topic, un poco mas arriba) q entre Jeff Y Eddie habia muy buen rollo..... hasta parecian ser los q mejor se llevavan. Q habra pasado xa q Eddie no presentara a Jeff??. Q raro, no?Frusciante escribió:m b v escribió:Last night at Pearl Jam’s show in Baltimore there was tension between Jeff Ament and the rest of the band. Eddie Vedder did not introduce Jeff during the band introductions, and Ament reportedly looked upset when Eddie failed to mention him and his mood changed after being upbeat earlier during the show. Ament threw down his ear plugs and stormed off stage immediately with a pissed off look on his face when the show ended.
Esto es cierto???
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Mi hermano me ha comentado que Eddie se hizo la pocha un lío presentando a matt y luego no se qued el público y luego no se cuantos y vamos, que se olvidó, pero no pareció premeditado. Otra cosa es que jeff se mosqueara, que se mosqueó como se ve en un video su salida echando leches hacia el vestuario....
Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
No hagais caso de alternativenation o grungereport. Son el Sálvame del grunge.
Menuda película se han montado. Que a EV con lo que pimpla se le olvide algún miembro del grupo es habitual. Por no hablar de las letras.
Jeff está como siempre todo el show. Algo pasa en RITFW que se le cruza el cable. Seguramente algún tema técnico ya que no le devuelve el bajo a su pipa como hace siempre. Lo deja medio tirado sobre el ampli y se larga. Y deja sus monitores sobre el teclado de boom camino del vestuario en la zona donde esta precisamente la persona de monitores. No los tira el suelo.
Anda que no se ha pillado rebotes el mismo Eduardo. En Manchester 2009 le dieron un par de veces la guitarra equivocada y se pilló un rebote de narices. Terminó Indifference y se largó pegando patadas a todo lo que pillaba. Al dia siguiente todos amigos, incluso mencionó a su pipa (q era el de J.Ramone) alabando su trabajo.
Tres horas de show, más de 100 temas de repertorio, shows q son editados todos oficialmente, la delicada salud de Mike... mucha tensión como para que no se agarren algún calentón de vez en cuando.
Seguramente EV iba más pimplado de lo habitual (eso comentan) y en vez de mencionar a Jeff diria cualquier chorrada. A estas alturas de la vida eso a Jeff mal no le va a sentar.
Grungereport joder ... cuantas tracklist FAKE de Lightning Bolt publicaron?
henchman- Mensajes : 16490
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
el culebrón WOWHD parte XXVII
Me contestan esto en FB
"Hi there, we usually allow up to 10 business days for delivery so that item should hopefully be with you this week. Please let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks, Anita"
¿lo tendré esta semana??
Me contestan esto en FB
"Hi there, we usually allow up to 10 business days for delivery so that item should hopefully be with you this week. Please let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks, Anita"
¿lo tendré esta semana??
clashcityrockers- Mensajes : 8338
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Re: Pearl Jam: Lightning Bolt (2013)
Supongo que os llegará estos días. A mi me llegó el viernes, más o menos lo habitual 10/15 días.clashcityrockers escribió:el culebrón WOWHD parte XXVII
Me contestan esto en FB
"Hi there, we usually allow up to 10 business days for delivery so that item should hopefully be with you this week. Please let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks, Anita"
¿lo tendré esta semana??
unabomber- Mensajes : 2580
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Stoner escribió:el disco gana que no veas
Pero sin volverse loco, eh?
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